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Old 04-05-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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That is because the people who have the greatest percentage of abortions are low class people who are more likely to be crappy, neglectful parents and then the cycle would continue. I firmly believe that if abortion was illegal in this country , America would have crime numbers close to 3rd world status. As a libertarian who is pro-choice not because I like the concept of abortion, but because I cherish individual freedom and less intrusive government, I tell my right winger Republican pro-life friends to be careful what you wish for.

 
Old 04-05-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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I read it and it was fascinating from an economics and social point of view. Abortion rates have been declining over the last 20 years for various reasons. We are now seeing a crime spike. Related?
 
Old 04-05-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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That is because the people who have the greatest percentage of abortions are low class people who are more likely to be crappy, neglectful parents and then the cycle would continue. I firmly believe that if abortion was illegal in this country , America would have crime numbers close to 3rd world status. As a libertarian who is pro-choice not because I like the concept of abortion, but because I cherish individual freedom and less intrusive government, I tell my right winger Republican pro-life friends to be careful what you wish for.
Read Freakonomics some years ago. Will reread.

Do you have any data as to the low life getting the majority of abortions? I have been looking for years for reliable data as to who gets abortions.

There was once a theory that the crime rate starting dropping when we got the lead out of gasoline, too.

But then the ADHD started going up. Those kids are risk takers. When DD started looking into it, ADHD kids were either the cops or the robbers due to their constant need for stimulation.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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For whatever reason I thought Freakonomics was only a podcast on WNYC. Regardless, this doesn't surprise me. Access to contraceptives and abortion has been crucial in reducing poverty in developing countries. It wouldn't surprise me if the same affect was seen in the U.S. I don't morally agree with abortion, but it isn't my place to dictate my views on others.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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That is because the people who have the greatest percentage of abortions are low class people who are more likely to be crappy, neglectful parents and then the cycle would continue. I firmly believe that if abortion was illegal in this country , America would have crime numbers close to 3rd world status. As a libertarian who is pro-choice not because I like the concept of abortion, but because I cherish individual freedom and less intrusive government, I tell my right winger Republican pro-life friends to be careful what you wish for.
What a weird conclusion to jump to.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 06:26 PM
 
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That is because the people who have the greatest percentage of abortions are low class people who are more likely to be crappy, neglectful parents and then the cycle would continue. I firmly believe that if abortion was illegal in this country , America would have crime numbers close to 3rd world status. As a libertarian who is pro-choice not because I like the concept of abortion, but because I cherish individual freedom and less intrusive government, I tell my right winger Republican pro-life friends to be careful what you wish for.
Correlated to the fact that Black women have a 5 times higher abortion rate than White women (source: CDC). Something to think about...
 
Old 04-05-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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Read Freakonomics some years ago. Will reread.

Do you have any data as to the low life getting the majority of abortions? I have been looking for years for reliable data as to who gets abortions.

There was once a theory that the crime rate starting dropping when we got the lead out of gasoline, too.

But then the ADHD started going up. Those kids are risk takers. When DD started looking into it, ADHD kids were either the cops or the robbers due to their constant need for stimulation.
They didn't say the women who chose not to have children were low life's. They said they were women who felt that they were unable or unwilling to raise a child at the time. Makes sense.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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Read Freakonomics some years ago. Will reread.

Do you have any data as to the low life getting the majority of abortions? I have been looking for years for reliable data as to who gets abortions.
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"2010 Census results reveal that Planned Parenthood is targeting minority neighborhoods. 79% of its surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of African American or Hispanic/Latino neighborhoods."
Analysis of Planned Parenthood Surgical Abortion Facilities by Location Demographics

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"An African-American woman is almost five times likelier to have an abortion than a white woman, and a Latina more than twice as likely, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
The Abortion Race Gap - The Atlantic - September 22, 2014
 
Old 04-05-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this.
 
Old 04-05-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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They didn't say the women who chose not to have children were low life's. They said they were women who felt that they were unable or unwilling to raise a child at the time. Makes sense.
Should of thought of that before engaging in sex and getting pregnant.
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