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Old 04-05-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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Bannon sent off
the death of a initial appeasement policy with Russia
huge military spending planned
staunch siding with Israel

what's different from the Bush-Cheney administration of 2001-2009?
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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Bannon sent off
the death of a initial appeasement policy with Russia
huge military spending planned
staunch siding with Israel

what's different from the Bush-Cheney administration of 2001-2009?
well the biggest one is Trump and his family are actively looting our nation. destroying the foundations of our economy. and are purposely impoverishing working class Americans....
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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The Repiglican-Phonycons want to go to war, very VERY badly.......Syria sounds a lot like the Afghanistan/Iraq fiasco in the making.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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The Repiglican-Phonycons want to go to war, very VERY badly.......Syria sounds a lot like the Afghanistan/Iraq fiasco in the making.
It was the Republicans that blocked Obama from going more so into Syria. Hopefully, they hold the line again.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The Repiglican-Phonycons want to go to war, very VERY badly.......Syria sounds a lot like the Afghanistan/Iraq fiasco in the making.
This is nonsense (note the infantile attempt to find new ways to play upon words) -- very common among Lefties of any stripe who can't accept the fact that most of their ideology is just a collection of contradictory nonsense. And they still can't get over the fact that a sufficient portion of the electorate recognized this the last time around. (Yeah, we know about the "popular" vote -- but might does not make right, especially when the combined total for the four non-"progressives" is still slightly less than that for Cooked Hillary and Crazy Jill, and the effect of illegal "sanctuary" votes is undeterminable).

True conservativism, and its libertarian strain in particular, are anchored in a core belief that the rights to life, liberty and property are unitary and indivisible. Honest, minimally-regulated entrepreneurship is thus viewed as central to all human progress, and attempts to interfere with it, while suppsedly cloaked in altruism, are usually rooted in a desire for access to the monopoly upon the use of force granted to the nation-state. And a little authority is like a little pregnancy -- or a little malignancy.

In fairness, the combination of the centralization of economic power and the apparent insecurities of a population over-sensitized and manipulated by the media poses yet another threat to the spirit of healthy skepticism and distrust of concentrated authority which emerged on both sides of the Atlantic about three centuries ago. It may well be that a security-obsessed educational system will cause the United States to abdicate from its status as the world's strongest open economy. But unless reinforced by totalitarian rule (a very vicious trend which Socialistic Europe has failed to fully renounce despite nearly 100 million premature graves over the last century) schemes to interfere with the workings of the markets, the exchange of knowledge and opinion, and the mobility of aspiring people tend to run aground -- as Mr. Trump (though his strongest opponent would have been much worse) is about to find out.

The term "Neocon", most commonly heard among disorganized, left-leaning juveniles, inspires more amusement than alarm in me, because the kiddies over there in the Big Playpen can't even manage to define it.

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Old 04-05-2017, 07:53 PM
 
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He's pivoting from facism to neoconservatism - the worst political ideologies.
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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He's a pander. Needs to feed his ego. Currently that is trying to win over the freedom caucus. Who knows what next week will bring.
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I hope he panders to the conservative elements of the party.

The conservatives will give him all the ego he needs if he would move to the right.
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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He's pivoting from facism to neoconservatism - the worst political ideologies.
Trump has made no effort to cultivate the social conservatives, who are the most blatantly authoritarian of the also-rans within the conservative/libertarian/Republican continuum, and has done so precisely because they are as much of a negative influence and "captive embarrassment" within that group as the assorted pan-sexual malcontents are among the "progressives".

All Trump has to do to solidify his grip is to allow the free interplay of market forces to restore the economy and refrain from impulsive Tweets and pipe-dreams like his wall. Whether he possesses the common sense to do so is yet to be determined, but the continued rants by spoiled snowflakes are probably the best thing he's got going for him.
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Bannon sent off
the death of a initial appeasement policy with Russia
huge military spending planned
staunch siding with Israel

what's different from the Bush-Cheney administration of 2001-2009?
Not enough difference to let a ray of light shine through the gap.

Trump always was a neo-con, right from the first. All he had to do was to say what his voters wanted to hear so badly, and they overlooked that obvious fact when he did.
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