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Old 04-10-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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If required, I'd be for it. I am hoping it isn't, and truthfully Assad has a pithy air fleet. A few strikes like this week and rebels may topple him.

Just 220-420 planes in his "force".
LOL, didn't we say something equally naive in the run up to the Iraq War?

Also, when would action in that hell hole country ever be "required" for our national defense?

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I'm not sure what's so great about aiming millions of dollars in missiles at an abandoned airbase and not really destroying anything but some old buildings.

Syria was launching attacks the next day.

Yay?

I mean, seriously... what did it do?
Other than get the Russians to back out of some agreement where we agree not to attack each other? Nothing...

Look, Syria is worth more to the Russians because they are a small country trying to stay relevant in global affairs by punching above their weight. If you look at them objectively, their economy is 12-13th in the world, and heavily dependent on fossil fuels. I see that people have a certain affinity for their President, but the fact of the matter is they are asserting influence in smaller parts of the world just for the sake of keeping a few countries' loyal to what used to be a super power.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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It is refreshing to see a President that acts instead of just talks BUT......

Obama drew that "Red Line" in the Syrian sand with what ? lipstick?

Trump is drawing that same line with Blood but the problem is and time will tell if that blood will be Syrian or American..?
Obama drew the red line, then went to a congress for approval because that's what the President is supposed to do before starting an armed conflict. The majority in Congress hated him because he was a half black Democrat. Many of those same fools are now supporting Trump's unilateral strike, which I find fascinating because it proves how weak their convictions are and how impotent they want to present themselves to be in front of an buffoonish alpha male.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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I hope you are right, and think he's been heading in that direction, anyway, but it probably depends on what happens next. If this strike accomplishes nothing, as it appears may be the case, he will look like a fool. If he gets us into another prolonged war, he's done.
He already looks like a fool, his "please think of the children" speech was absolultly ridiculous. He is now obviously just a puppet, the only people supporting him now are white nationalists or neo con warmongers.
It's safe to say he is done, in 8 weeks... wow! Got to be the fastest lame duck in US history.

What's the idiot gonna do in North Korea is the big question?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No matter what Assad requires, it will be wonderful to deliver those deserved results.


No more Head in the Sand administration.
How much of your blood and the blood of your loved ones are you willing to invest in that project and how big a check are you willing to write to finance it?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Alright I bite.....
So if this will escalate and the US has to follow up in Syria with ground troops....as in another "conflict" (war) and subsequently having to rebuild the place and keep troops for peacekeeping etc. will it still be wonderful?

Because wasn't Trump the man to go with to NOT be pulled in another bottomless middle-east war/situation?

The right will think so as it will keep those $$$ rolling in to the MIC and won't waste any on SOCIALISM! and actually doing anything for Americans.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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He already looks like a fool, his "please think of the children" speech was absolultly ridiculous. He is now obviously just a puppet, the only people supporting him now are white nationalists or neo con warmongers.
It's safe to say he is done, in 8 weeks... wow! Got to be the fastest lame duck in US history.

What's the idiot gonna do in North Korea is the big question?
Not the only one. I'm still concerned about what he will do next in the Middle East.

The thing that amazes me is that some of his supporters feel so betrayed that he hit Syria at all. Sure, he talked about "America First," and made a lot of non-interventionist comments, but he also said "I love war." That anyone at all is shocked that he did this is beyond belief. One of my biggest fears about seeing him elected was that he would get us into another war, and do so on an impulse.

The thing is, he really did seem to be genuinely moved when he talked about the victims of the chemical attack. That's lovely, but did he truly not realize until that moment the amount of suffering that's been going on in that region for DECADES?
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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Not the only one. I'm still concerned about what he will do next in the Middle East.

The thing that amazes me is that some of his supporters feel so betrayed that he hit Syria at all. Sure, he talked about "America First," and made a lot of non-interventionist comments, but he also said "I love war." That anyone at all is shocked that he did this is beyond belief. One of my biggest fears about seeing him elected was that he would get us into another war, and do so on an impulse.
Well, i was not really a "supporter", but the issue people forget is Hillary ran on a war ticket. Trump ran on a non war ticket. I had hope he would be different. I was wrong, along with many others. Trump lied! That's the issue, it's not shock, it's dissapointment, it's the same feeling i had when Obama turned into a liar & raging warmonger.


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The thing is, he really did seem to be genuinely moved when he talked about the victims of the chemical attack. That's lovely, but did he truly not realize until that moment the amount of suffering that's been going on in that region for DECADES?
Really? That's what you saw? He just looked to me completley out of his depth, like Bush during Katrina.
Shame he wasn't crying "ohhh the babies" when he killed those women & kids in Yemen
Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children' | The Independent
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If required, I'd be for it. I am hoping it isn't, and truthfully Assad has a pithy air fleet. A few strikes like this week and rebels may topple him.

Just 220-420 planes in his "force".
I don't think Assad is ever going to topple.

If he was willing to let the rebels have Syria, he would have quit the fight years ago. This is now the 6th year of this total war of attrition.

If he loses, he dies. If he loses, Syria will fall into total disarray and dissolution, twice as bad as Iraq, Libya, or the others, so it will remain an unstable hotbed for decades to come.

If Assad forces the war to end, the rebels will be persecuted until they're all killed or too terrified to give further resistance. Then, sooner or later, Assad will leave one jump ahead of a coup or will fall to one, and some Syrian military officer will replace him.

That's the way it works in the Middle East.
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:36 PM
 
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Silly Trump supporters LOL








I see none of the Trump supporters even tried and defending that..... Fair enough!
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm a Trump supporter... But to be honest, no chemical weapons were destroyed.
What was the objective?
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