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Old 04-11-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Because the airlines don't make as much money that way.

Overbooking allows the airlines to maximize profits and ensure that the flights are always full of people.
It also allows people like us to buy last minute tickets at reasonable prices.

A very tiny percentage of passengers actually get bumped, and they are compensated.

This has been going on for years now and never received this kind of negative press. Now along comes United with a completely different situation (full flight, flight crew needed seats) and everyone is losing their minds about overbooking for some reason.

And why has it become acceptable that ANYONE get bumped?

So it's become the norm for someone to get BUMPED so the airline can DOUBLE BOOK EMPTY SEATS?


I find it quite amusing how people have become accustom to get it taken up the rear for so long until it becomes the established "norm".

So we see airline corporate shill empathizers on here that accept that people get bumped so the airline can double book an empty seat so they can pad their income statement.

 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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And why has it become acceptable that ANYONE get bumped?

So it's become the norm for someone to get BUMPED so the airline can DOUBLE BOOK EMPTY SEATS?


I find it quite amusing how people have become accustom to get it taken up the rear for so long until it becomes the established "norm".

So we see airline corporate shill empathizers on here that accept that people get bumped so the airline can double book an empty seat so they can pad their income statement.
People don't want to rock the boat and face the possibility of higher fares. Many people would not be doing much of the travelling they have become accustomed to without fares kept affordable by such inconveniences as overbooking, small seats and no frills.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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OMG yet again.

This United flight was NOT overbooked.

It was sold out with all passengers on board.

4 crew members decided they needed to be on that flight so United screwed up and inconvenienced the existing seated passengers.

This isn't an overbooking situation how many times must this be repeated???

Are you confusing facts with the need to debate a non-issue.

Seriously - what fun are you.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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OMG yet again.

This United flight was NOT overbooked.

It was sold out with all passengers on board.

4 crew members decided they needed to be on that flight so United screwed up and inconvenienced the existing seated passengers.

This isn't an overbooking situation how many times must this be repeated???

BUt it happens more than crew members needing a last min hop..
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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And why has it become acceptable that ANYONE get bumped?

So it's become the norm for someone to get BUMPED so the airline can DOUBLE BOOK EMPTY SEATS?


I find it quite amusing how people have become accustom to get it taken up the rear for so long until it becomes the established "norm".

So we see airline corporate shill empathizers on here that accept that people get bumped so the airline can double book an empty seat so they can pad their income statement.
they count on people cancelling
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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No other business is banned from this. Any private business has the right to refuse service for any reason, so long as it's not one of the "special" protected reasons like age/race/religion/etc. Any restaurant, hotel, retail store, or any other business has the right to ask you to leave the premises at any time.
Its more than refusing service in a one time situation- but a routine business practice of maximizing profits and bumping paid customers.

No one is debating a business's right to refuse service on a case by case basis, but this routine practice.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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United's net income after taxes and expenses was like 2 billion dollars.

They can afford for every seat not to be filled.

Especially when the ticketholders have already paid for those seats whether or not they show up.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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Im referring to overbooking in general which is an issue, what is the solution for it. But still sh##ty of United to kick off paying passengers for employees
OK, in that case I don't think overbooking is really a problem because we haven't seen as bad a situation as the United incident publicly based on overbooking.

I've been at airports waiting to board, and the staff was upfront at the boarding gate about being overbooked, long before the flight started boarding. There was always volunteers willing to get bumped for compensation.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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OK, in that case I don't think overbooking is really a problem because we haven't seen as bad a situation as the United incident publicly based on overbooking.

I've been at airports waiting to board, and the staff was upfront at the boarding gate about being overbooked, long before the flight started boarding. There was always volunteers willing to get bumped for compensation.

https://www.ft.com/content/e4cb5744-...4-ab04428977f9

In the US, which provides the best statistics on this matter, the number of people denied boarding — both voluntary and involuntary — was 1.07mil. in 1999 but declined to 552,000 in 2015, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Those might sound like large numbers but the 2015 level represented only 0.09 per cent of trips taken by passengers.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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And why has it become acceptable that ANYONE get bumped?

So it's become the norm for someone to get BUMPED so the airline can DOUBLE BOOK EMPTY SEATS?


I find it quite amusing how people have become accustom to get it taken up the rear for so long until it becomes the established "norm".

So we see airline corporate shill empathizers on here that accept that people get bumped so the airline can double book an empty seat so they can pad their income statement.
An aircraft with empty seats loses money. The only place an airline can recoup that money is by adding it on to ticket prices. Flights get more expensive when airlines are kept from optimizing their resources.

The airlines are actually pretty good at it. Care to guess how many travelers are involuntarily bumped? Roughly 0.0062% in the US, in 2016. (That's not a typo.) No-shows aren't just people abandoning their tickets. People miss connections due to weather or mechanical issues all the time.
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