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Old 04-13-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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So its imperative for all the neocons and jared Kushner who are taking over in the trump administration that Assad must go and the whole arming of hezbollah by iran and syria must stop and Israel is happy, why isnt war with Iran on the table with its nuclear ambitions? We are intervening everywhere else, its only a matter of time before Iran occupies center stage.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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So its imperative for all the neocons and jared Kushner who are taking over in the trump administration that Assad must go and the whole arming of hezbollah by iran and syria must stop and Israel is happy, why isnt war with Iran on the table with its nuclear ambitions? We are intervening everywhere else, its only a matter of time before Iran occupies center stage.
Iran is far too powerful an enemy for the US to deal with. Furthermore they have strong multi layered air defences, they have highly trained and very highly motivated forces that have real experience. the only reason to fight them is if we dont really have a choice.


Or do you think the USA has the stomach for a war with lots of body bags.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:48 PM
 
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Iran is far too powerful an enemy for the US to deal with. Furthermore they have strong multi layered air defences, they have highly trained and very highly motivated forces that have real experience. the only reason to fight them is if we dont really have a choice.


Or do you think the USA has the stomach for a war with lots of body bags.
So... Americans ought to be braver and more resolute about fighting wars, and America ought to become more militarily powerful so that it can defeat Iran? Is that the message you're trying to convey?
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel says it like it is without sugar coating anything. Since the world has their heads in the sand in regards to Iran, we are doomed to repeat 75 Million deaths that happened during WW2 because we waited too long. The only difference is that Iran is sitting back and watching while supplying others who are getting their hands dirty. The US did the unthinkable to Japan and now we have to do it again. Either the world has to work together to so or all the debt the US has built up needs to all be forgiven and then the US has to take car of it.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Israel says it like it is without sugar coating anything. Since the world has their heads in the sand in regards to Iran, we are doomed to repeat 75 Million deaths that happened during WW2 because we waited too long. The only difference is that Iran is sitting back and watching while supplying others who are getting their hands dirty. The US did the unthinkable to Japan and now we have to do it again. Either the world has to work together to so or all the debt the US has built up needs to all be forgiven and then the US has to take car of it.
Then Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and whatever other regional power that don't like Iran can sink their differences and solve the problem any military way they want. What America can do is lend those countries money and sell them weapons.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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Then Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and whatever other regional power that don't like Iran can sink their differences and solve the problem any military way they want. What America can do is lend those countries money and sell them weapons.
The hate for Israel and Jews, which includes Europe, goes too deep for them to allow Israel to play along with them.

Most people still haven't figured out that the Union of European countries are worthless as there is no centralized army that can quickly me mobilized. The Arab League has the same problem. The only countries that can mobilize large armies are the US, Russia and China. China will take care of North Korea, but we may have to sacrifice South Korea to do so. If Iran becomes a threat to Russia (and has something to gain) then Russia will join the US in taking out Iran.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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The hate for Israel and Jews, which includes Europe, goes too deep for them to allow Israel to play along with them.

Most people still haven't figured out that the Union of European countries are worthless as there is no centralized army that can quickly me mobilized. The Arab League has the same problem. The only countries that can mobilize large armies are the US, Russia and China. China will take care of North Korea, but we may have to sacrifice South Korea to do so. If Iran becomes a threat to Russia (and has something to gain) then Russia will join the US in taking out Iran.
Well I'm sorry to tell you GW Bush blew it for ya. America has no will to put a major force on the ground. Especially in the Middle East.

Anyways at worst....the Israelis can use those nukes they keep saying they don't have on Tehran if need be.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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Kurshner & Ivanka, will be the ones that ruin the Trump Presidency, making his base leave and criticizes him
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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Well I'm sorry to tell you GW Bush blew it for ya. America has no will to put a major force on the ground. Especially in the Middle East.

Anyways at worst....the Israelis can use those nukes they keep saying they don't have on Tehran if need be.
Israels nukes is a Doomsday device to it's neighbors and that's what keeps them at bay. If Iran continues on it's path it will be the same power hungry Germany from WW2. Iran is more of a threat to the world than the worlds rampant imaginations in relation to ISIS. It may happen in 10-20 years, but it's not a "if" it's a "when".
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:20 PM
 
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Israels nukes is a Doomsday device to it's neighbors and that's what keeps them at bay. If Iran continues on it's path it will be the same power hungry Germany from WW2. Iran is more of a threat to the world than the worlds rampant imaginations in relation to ISIS. It may happen in 10-20 years, but it's not a "if" it's a "when".
Iran is a threat to greater Israel and Khaleeji-Gulf monarch dominance in the region. I don't disagree in a sense, these fault lines of civilizations will always be at war in one way or another. On the other hand Israel has Dimona and the Samson Option...Iran and every other regional player understands that Israel will take out all the life it can if Israel's existence is truly threatened in a conventional war.

So why employ the US to further a divide and rule strategy that doesn't pay much in the way of dividends to the people of the United States?
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