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Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Originally Posted by glamatomic
In 2010, St. Louis City had 144 homicides.
In 2016, there were 188- an increase of 44.
In St. Louis and Missouri on the whole, neither medicinal or recreational marijuana has been legalized.
The uptick in crime is therefore a nationwide trend and entirely unrelated to the legalization status of marijuana.
Yep. I actually posted a few pages ago and explained, in detail, exactly why the murder rate in Denver had gone up between 2001 and 2016. It had absolutely nothing to do with legalizing pot.
I quoted the OP and mentioned them by name to respond, they ignored me.
58 homicides for a city of 700,000 and a metro area of over 3 million people is very, very low compared to other cities with 3+ million people.
Yesterday on 4/20 it was revealed by a CBS News poll that support for legalization is at an all time high (pardon the pun) with 61% approval of full legalization.
The genie is out of the bottle, no matter what a regressive dinosaur like Jeff Sessions may think. The one great aspect of the legalization movement, and keeping it safe from Federal interference, is that so many rich pricks are cashing in on the industry, and threatening the revenue streams of the wealthy will always give Republicans pause.
Sadly it had to come down to money to keep the Republican hounds at bay. There was some rich prick in Colorado who was interviewed and he owned a major dispensary in Denver and he voted against the legalization of it but now readily admits he is a huge supporter of it.
Whats out of control is that people like Sessions are the root cause of this. This is what happens when you force a business to operate all cash. Trying to tie it to marijuana is nonsense. You should be ashamed.
I was with you every step of the way until you somehow tried to blame Sessions? Make no mistake, it was the Obama admin that forced this industry into an all cash basis. It was also the Obama admin that raided licensed medical marijuana clinics all through California & set the legalization movement back ten years.
No matter how "legal" marijuana may become, there will always be large-scale crime associated with it. There will be criminals who will exploit the legality of customers possessing small amounts of it and will grow or sell it illegally, at a lower price, than in the authorized shops. Some of those shops will go crooked and buy part of their supply from cheaper bootleg sources. It will become a big nightmare for law enforcement, as keeping track of what's legal and what isn't, will be impossible.
Never mind how unhealthy smoking it is and how many traffic accidents will be caused by drivers who are high on it. Productivity and safety on the job will suffer. Look for many more acts of violence, stemming from turf-wars among the bootleggers. The criminal culture that has built up around it, can't be made to simply go away, by legalization. The drug cartels across borders will be working overtime, to ensure that there will always be as much crime as possible involved with it. These states that have allowed legalization (including my own), have just opened some big cans of worms.
Yup, it also opens people up to new drugs. They are always chasing that better high. Just look at all the heroin now that we have this national drug push.
Yup, it also opens people up to new drugs. They are always chasing that better high. Just look at all the heroin now that we have this national drug push.
Actually you can blame alcohol. But god forbid you'd outlaw that, right?
I was with you every step of the way until you somehow tried to blame Sessions? Make no mistake, it was the Obama admin that forced this industry into an all cash basis. It was also the Obama admin that raided licensed medical marijuana clinics all through California & set the legalization movement back ten years.
Operative word here. WAS. This is no longer on their watch, and Sessions has made it clear where he stands. This could have been resolved months ago. Did this murder occur during Obamas term? No? Then lets deal with what it IS.
No matter how "legal" marijuana may become, there will always be large-scale crime associated with it. There will be criminals who will exploit the legality of customers possessing small amounts of it and will grow or sell it illegally, at a lower price, than in the authorized shops. Some of those shops will go crooked and buy part of their supply from cheaper bootleg sources. It will become a big nightmare for law enforcement, as keeping track of what's legal and what isn't, will be impossible.
Never mind how unhealthy smoking it is and how many traffic accidents will be caused by drivers who are high on it. Productivity and safety on the job will suffer. Look for many more acts of violence, stemming from turf-wars among the bootleggers. The criminal culture that has built up around it, can't be made to simply go away, by legalization. The drug cartels across borders will be working overtime, to ensure that there will always be as much crime as possible involved with it. These states that have allowed legalization (including my own), have just opened some big cans of worms.
So is that how it's been working for alcohol ever since prohibition of it was repealed in 1933? The answer is no, and really marijuana needs to be legalized and REGULATED like alcohol and tobacco.
Yup, it also opens people up to new drugs. They are always chasing that better high. Just look at all the heroin now that we have this national drug push.
Are you just thumbing through the Reagan era playbook and posting at this point?
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