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Yes, we have only a tiny fraction of what they have and we have had more people killed by Islamic Terrorist since 2000 than all of Europe combined. The Trumps, Le Pens and others are winning not because there is fear mongoring but because there is actually something to be afraid of. These guys arent screaming "Jesus Saves" or "Loves me some Budha" when they kill us
Please see my other reply.
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You have more to fear of random gun violence, being mugged, being killed by a bus/car as a pedestrian, being killed in an accident on the road, or even being struck by lightning.
The level of noise associated with terrorism fear and rhetoric doesn't match the statistical risk associated with being a target of a terrorist attack.
Notice, I'm not saying there is no risk - just that it is VERY low risk, and the attention payed to it is overblown.
These politicians largely know this...but fear is a powerful thing, especially fear of something that is hard to understand/relate to. And these politicians are exploiting that fear to their benefit.
There is of course something "there" - but is it enough of a threat to warrant this amount of attention that we're giving it as a world?
This is VERY obviously fear mongering. And the politicians are exploiting it.
In Europe it is not just fear of terroris. Impoverished immigrants are straining the welfare state. Add higher crime rates and you have problems way beyond terrorism.
Immigration policy should not include a "duty" to take in reefugees. Policy should be based on what is best for a nation.
Completely right. Its not just a terrorism issue, but a HUGE financial and crime issue as well. As well as a cultural tension issue as many of these Islamic migrants aren't assimilating well at all. They're a FAR cry from "just more immigrants" like Italians in America a century ago. In Germany, only 5% of the Islamic migrants that arrived in 2015 have found employment by now. Having 95% of them on welfare is a huge problem. We should take in immigrants solely based on what positives they can add to our country.
I bet every American you know thinks Trump is an idiot, and yet he's President.
Our last President put us further in debt and won a nobel prize on the way out, and released plenty of terrorist within his 8 years that want to kill us and people tells us American's that Trump is idiot for securing America.
Trump didn't leave weapons of mass destruction in Iraq OBUMMER AND HILLARY DID
The world is wising up to the mental disorder known as liberalism. Having witnessed the damage that liberalism causes, the masses are turning towards whatever represents the opposite of liberalism. Sanity prevails
In Europe it is not just fear of terroris. Impoverished immigrants are straining the welfare state. Add higher crime rates and you have problems way beyond terrorism.
Immigration policy should not include a "duty" to take in reefugees. Policy should be based on what is best for a nation.
Yes, this is true. See my other reply regarding this false equivalency:
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There was never a chance that we would see anywhere near the amount of refugees coming here than have gone to European countries. We're talking tens of thousands vs. millions.
And we're an enormous country used to immigrants by comparison. Total apples to oranges.
Our last President put us further in debt and won a nobel prize on the way out, and released plenty of terrorist within his 8 years that want to kill us and people tells us American's that Trump is idiot for securing America.
Trump didn't leave weapons of mass destruction in Iraq OBUMMER AND HILLARY DID
President OBAMA (correct spelling, lol) kept us safe. The president who started a war over faux weapons of mass destruction wash Bush #2--a terrible president, most agree.
We're all afraid of terrorism, member of both parties. We should be very careful of who is allowed to come to this country. But the ones who are whipping up the hysteria of fear right now are the Republicans--and right wingers around the world. That's how they think they can get elected.
BTW, people in the UK voted for BREXIT but that didn't include crazy stuff like giving up national health care, sacrificing the environment, and tax cuts for the wealthy.
I hope history doesn't repeat itself. France isn't the Weimar Republic at this stage, so I hope they don't elect her and remain strong. Vichy France should stay buried where it belongs, in the past
Yes, continuing on a path that will lead Europe into cultural destruction, and complete instability is remaining strong.
You are correct, we could very well see history repeat itself.
We could see Europe plunged into a dark age, and there be a need for a new crusades to free the people of Europe from muslim oppression.
Obviously it ain't just old white men sick of the status quo.
Young folks in France actually seem to care about their country and they seem a lot more patriotic in general than in America .
Many young people in America seem like they'd rather be living in Europe and look down on America .
Completely right. Its not just a terrorism issue, but a HUGE financial and crime issue as well. As well as a cultural tension issue as many of these Islamic migrants aren't assimilating well at all. They're a FAR cry from "just more immigrants" like Italians in America a century ago. In Germany, only 5% of the Islamic migrants that arrived in 2015 have found employment by now. Having 95% of them on welfare is a huge problem. We should take in immigrants solely based on what positives they can add to our country.
A century ago we had no welfare state. We could take in them poor huddled masses. The only issue was wages and working conditions. With the emergence of the welfare state things got a lot more complicated but basically nations should not be importing the poor and unskilled.
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