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Old 04-21-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
Lead, arsenic, cadmium, mercury, and other poisons are in coal ash.
These can also be found in the dirt in your backyard, now and hundreds of years ago. It's not question of whether these things are present, it's whether the levels of them pose a health risk.

 
Old 04-21-2017, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They're developing, they'll figure it out.

But there's no reason not to try to refine our usage of energy. Plus things like wind and solar are independence from the centralized grid. There could be a day where we are much more insulated from the risk of power outages. They're even refining the process of producing solar panels to make the production of solar panels more efficient and less dirty. We should always strive to improve, not rest on our laurels.

Even if coal becomes a minority in energy production there's no reason we should forget how to safely extract, and utilize it in a more efficient and clean manner.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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The EPA disagrees:
2005? Bush administration EPA sheet not even citing studies? Sorry but you and other coal supporters are arguing with proven facts.

EPA Approves Northeast's Plan to Curb Mercury Pollution From Midwest Coal Plants | Conservation Law Foundation

Northeast States Move to Force Reduction of Mercury Pollution from Midwest Power Plants | Conservation Law Foundation

http://cen.acs.org/articles/95/i5/Cu...c-mercury.html
 
Old 04-21-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Who cares?

It's only Africa.
That particular post you quoted concerns the U.S. not Africa. Industry is putting toxic coal ash into building products here.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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How si this going to help the people in WVA?
 
Old 04-21-2017, 11:54 PM
 
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How si this going to help the people in WVA?
Who said it would help?
 
Old 04-22-2017, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Developing and using coal reserves to build an industrial economy is very short sighted and without imagination. African countries have the chance to quickly move from rural/agricultural/tribal economies directly into the knowledge based 21st Century without going through either the coal or the heavy industrialization. I think they should concentrate on education and thought based computerized economics. IMHO they could think their way into the 21st Century.
They send billions of e-mails and transfer millions of dollars to people around the globe on a daily basis.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 12:48 AM
 
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You weren't aware? They have an abundance of EVERYTHING sitting in the ground.

So if you show concern about the environment and fossil fuel usage, you shouldn't get on a party boat?

SMGDH.
Yup. Part of why China's been busy buying up land in Africa

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Developing and using coal reserves to build an industrial economy is very short sighted and without imagination. African countries have the chance to quickly move from rural/agricultural/tribal economies directly into the knowledge based 21st Century without going through either the coal or the heavy industrialization. I think they should concentrate on education and thought based computerized economics. IMHO they could think their way into the 21st Century.
It's still cheap energy, that they need though.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 02:37 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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On the other side of the coin, yesterday was the first day on record since the Industrial Revolution that Britain didn't use coal to produce emergy.

First coal-free day in Britain since Industrial Revolution - BBC News

UK set for first full day without coal power - BBC News

Britain goes without coal for the first time 'since Industrial Revolution' - Telegraph


British power generation achieves first ever coal-free day - Guardian

UK to run without coal power for a full working day, in historic first since industrial revolution | The Independent
 
Old 04-22-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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How much are these miners getting paid?
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