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Old 04-23-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Very true!

Maybe if Americans had a better understanding and measure of how we are REALLY "winning" or "losing" rather than constantly picking a side and defending that side regardless of facts, reason or logic, maybe just maybe those in positions to exploit America for their on special interests wouldn't have such an easy time of it!

We fight, bicker and quarrel over all manner of nonsense; loaded political rhetoric, simple campaign slogans, fake news, alternative facts, partisan politics through-and-through, while behind the scenes the rich and powerful just keep getting more rich and more powerful.

We think a campaign promise to "drain the swamp" or "make America great again" somehow really means anything of the sort.

"PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
But for some reason you believed "Yes We Can" what ever that means.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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Not a word about policy. This is a population that has been massively brainwashed by liberal media, and they don't think beyond what they are told. It's all part of the continued, concerted effort to derail the current administration.



Yes, and brainwashed at that.
Ahh look at the sheep and their talking points. I addressed this in the first couple pages.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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Well lets talk policy? (i doubt you will)

Trump has failed to provide much policy beyond shouty word noises. We get one or two


Can you link to actual policy plans or guides provided by Trump to congress.

His budget is not real nor workable, it is not a serious effort to provide guidance as it is not workable or passable. He may as well have requested an 80 mile wheel of cheese.

Trump talks with shouty vague noises but provides no clear policy on anything. What is the actual policy ref Syria, Iraq...

There is virtually no real economic policy, no international policy etc. Trump spoke of a vague healthcare policy we would all love, but failed to provide congress with a guideline a framework for them to work with.

Instead of policy Trump just kicked healthcare to Ryan who made up his own POLICY on healthcare and Trump just "went with it"...

so lets talk policy, will You? Or will you just pretend nobody wants to talk policy cause you know if you do it will make you face the stark reality that trump is simply winging it.
Wow... you have audacity

Obama budget defeated 98-1 in Senate vote
Obama budget defeated 98-1 in Senate vote - Washington Times

Wasn't it 6 years before a budget was passed during the Obama years? And you should know that Congress makes the laws.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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Obama miss another in-law budget deadline this year, marking the 18th time

how-many-times-has-obama-violated-budget-deadline
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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It's fascinating to me how Trump supporters never want to discuss the topic. They want to discuss Obama or Clinton.

Guys, you won. The discussion is now about your guys leadership. Suck it up.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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It's fascinating to me how Trump supporters never want to discuss the topic. They want to discuss Obama or Clinton.

Guys, you won. The discussion is now about your guys leadership. Suck it up.
Sorry you and the left cannot see the hypocrisy in your threads?

Yes, suck it up lefties, you lost, elections have consequences, matter-o-fact, many of the elections over the last 9 years have been very consequential against the left to the tune of about 1000+ loses across the governmental arena.....

But hey, the left was doing absolutely amazing during the last during the obama presidency.....that's why they are in charge, right now.....
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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Sorry you and the left cannot see the hypocrisy in your threads?

Yes, suck it up lefties, you lost, elections have consequences, matter-o-fact, many of the elections over the last 9 years have been very consequential against the left to the tune of about 1000+ loses across the governmental arena.....

But hey, the left was doing absolutely amazing during the last during the obama presidency.....that's why they are in charge, right now.....
And...more deflection.

Having issues reconciling the Trump promises and reality? Those polls reflect what folks are thinking. Other polls reflect that Trumps base continues to ignore what happening and deflecting.

As usual the victims of a con man have problems recognising it, meanwhile the majority of folks. Look at this and say "How are you still falling for this nonsense?"

And then the conned victims last out. So predictable. So...sad.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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And then the conned victims last out. So predictable. So...sad.
Surely you aren't surprised as this has been going on for years.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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And...more deflection.
And...............the truth is now deflection?

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Having issues reconciling the Trump promises and reality? Those polls reflect what folks are thinking. Other polls reflect that Trumps base continues to ignore what happening and deflecting.
Still waiting on on gitmo to be closed, my $2500, wanted to keep my Dr., and wanted to keep my insurance....

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As usual the victims of a con man have problems recognising it, meanwhile the majority of folks. Look at this and say "How are you still falling for this nonsense?"
You were conned for 8 years and never recognized it.....

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And then the conned victims last out. So predictable. So...sad.
As are the threads you start, expected, predictable, and basically useless, because you don't like the fact that you don't like what's going on means nothing....the right put up with it for 8 years....hence, the 1000+ loss of seats on the dem side across the board.....but you seem to think that is a deflection....
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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Surely you aren't surprised as this has been going on for years.
I keep thinking "we should be better then this". I mean...I KNOW better by now. But hope springs eternal.
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