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Old 04-23-2017, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Nobody wants to pay for tRUMP's folly.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/borde...230300722.html
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Not a single member of Congress who represents the territory on the southwest border said they support President Donald Trump’s request for $1.4 billion to begin construction of his promised wall, according to a Wall Street Journal survey, testing the administration’s ability to reach a deal on government funding next week.

Most lawmakers representing the region—both Democrats and Republicans—said they are opposed and many said they have unanswered questions. A few were noncommittal, but not a single member of the House or Senate representing the region expressed support for the funding request. That includes nine members of the House and eight senators across four states: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.
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Enthusiasm for the project has been tepid, at best, from many lawmakers since Mr. Trump submitted his request. In March, he asked Congress for $1.4 billion in spending for the current fiscal year for the project, with an additional $2.6 billion for next year. Many Republicans responded that the Trump approach is overly focused on a physical barrier rather than other approaches to border security, such as technology, that experts say can be more effective and less expensive.
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“As representatives of the communities that make up our southern border, we recognize the need for robust border security and infrastructure to ensure public safety and increase cross border commerce,” Reps. Will Hurd (R., Texas) and Martha McSally (R., Ariz.) wrote in a letter last month to senior administration officials. “However, we also have an obligation to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars and as such have a number of questions.”

Some who back immigration restrictions dismiss these lawmakers’ concerns as parochial and irrelevant to the national imperative to secure the border. But opposition from border-state members is significant in that many know the issue best. Ms. McSally, for example, chairs the Homeland Security border security subcommittee, and in an interview, she said walls do little to stop criminal organizations from getting across the border. “They will go over, through or under physical barriers, sometimes pretty quickly,” she said.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Trump supporters need to get over this "wall" thing, it was never, ever, going to happen, it was simply Donald being assertive on the campaign trail. Most of us realized that it was ineffectual, costly, impractical, and stupid.

Just like he is backtracking on so many "promises" he made during the campaign, the wall was only symbolic and was never something that he intended on actually doing. He knew he was spoofing you guys when he said it, but some of you swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. ("Oh, yeah, let's build a big wall to keep those Mexicans out.....that is a great idea !" )

And I haven't seen any check from Mexico yet, have you ?
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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46 vs. 4, not a problem.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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wall's going up. possible war instigated and promoted by liberals will make it more palatable.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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wall's going up. possible war instigated and promoted by liberals will make it more palatable.
I wouldn't bet on it:


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ld-pay-for-it/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...m_opinions_pop

It's the Republicans that will kill it..in the end.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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Anyone who believes this wall was logical or real deserves to be suckered in.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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Of the two Texas Republican Senators, Senator Cornyn is essentially against the wall, at least in Texas.

I am not sure where the other Senator stands. Rafael Edward Cruz, whom was born in Canada and immigrated to the United States as a child, has been somewhat ambivalent of late. Perhaps because his seat is up in 2018, and lots of (rich, Republican) ranchers that would be affected by the wall have been decidedly against it.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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Why can't the Trump administration use federal convict labor to build the wall? It would be a heck of a lot cheaper than paying union scale wages. Used to be that hardened criminals and/or those who committed egregious crimes were sentenced to hard labor, but that has changed everywhere it seems.
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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The wall is an absurd idea. Do people not understand cartels have been drilling underground tunnels across the border for years? What a collassell waste of taxpayer money.
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Anyone who believes this wall was logical or real deserves to be suckered in.
Sort of like the lefties believing GITMO would be closed and blacks thinking life was going to get better in 2009.

Last edited by Mr. Joshua; 04-23-2017 at 09:00 AM..
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