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Old 04-29-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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BBC is a publicly funded service, you can read PBS too. Or maybe you thought BBC was a listed company or something.

BBC is funded by a TAX of every household, even if you hate it you pay for it !!


i find it delightful to see a trump supporter , showing support for "solicism" without even knowing it...

delightful.
lol !

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Which is also why BBC tv is so good. Almost worth it to go to England just to have something decent to watch on tv. And if you don't like the BBC, try Reuters--it's free.
I read BBC & ABC/SBS (Aus.versions ) occasionally CBC as well. They're all very good.

agree, the BBC, ABC & SBS always have something to watch - (we get BBC / BBC knowledge etc here through cable)
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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The BBC is not and was not founded by socialists and its not funded through a tax on every household.

It was formed as a commercial company in the 20's by British and American electrical companies who were operating in the UK. The man most responsible for establishing the BBC as independent public service broadcasting was a strict scottish calvinist John Reith who had far right leanings and admired mussolini and the german right, labor hated the bbc in the beginning. It is funded through the license fee on british tv

I would welcome a national tv and radio network that was intelligent, pbs and npr is usually biased and mediocre outside of the stuff like world report and some shows it gets from the bbc and a few shows.

All the news coverage on the large networks is terrible. ABC,NBC,FOX,CBS,CNN

There is plenty of good stuff out there like the Asia times, Reuters, Daily mail, ,Daily telegraph,The independent etc that doesnt deal with all these pay walls and limits on articles read. The NY times deserves its decline

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Old 04-29-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Its not just the The BBC, Financial times, Daily mail, Asia times ,Daily telegraph,The independent are all free to read online,my entire flipboard is mainly foreign newspapers and media. Wonder how they survive without article limits and paywalls.

US media is just very mediocre, even pbs is nothing like the bbc but at least npr carries the world report from the bbc
Again, you're making two claims here. You start one and finish with another. There are, by the way, for profit newspapers in the UK.

The question that must be asked: why is American media mediocre?
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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I like The Guardian I'm on their email list I get a roundup of articles every day from them and you can read their stuff without a bunch of bs spam, ads, pop-ups, etc.
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Old 04-29-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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Again, you're making two claims here. You start one and finish with another. There are, by the way, for profit newspapers in the UK.

The question that must be asked: why is American media mediocre?
John Reith set the standards that the BBC when it received its royal charter. there is nothing in America like BBC Radio 4 and the BBC World Service because pbs and npr are just poorly run. I dont personally want to see pbs and npr defunded , I want to see it become interesting and less biased. I used to work near nprs impressive new digs in DC, alot of taxpayer money has gone into these places, defunding it isnt going to get our money back

The BBC charter is to:

Sustain citizenship and civil society.

Promote education and learning.

Stimulate creativity and cultural excellence.

Represent the UK, its nations, regions and communities.

Bring the UK to the world and the world to the UK.

America could build a serious national tv and radio company and something like the BBC if it wanted to. I love documentaries and some companies like journeyman pictures, even vice very rarely, abc from Australia, but even online when I watch a doc it inevitably seems to be bbc4 or something from the bbc

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Old 04-30-2017, 03:12 AM
 
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As a retired librarian and I find this kind of snarky remark offensive to the importance of our free press, actually subscription to these papers is up. Journalism isn't free. Internet news could be - you get what you pay for. The great BBC is supported by government and people alike.
Spare me the fake outrage. I,too, worked in a library.

Yes, that's about the only thing that WaPo is good for. It's descended into the ranks of birdcage liner/fish wraps. It's not the same paper as it was back in the days of Watergate.

I wasn't being "snarky" either. When I said that I only buy the Sunday paper if I need newspaper to send a package, etc., I was being serious.
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:28 AM
 
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BBC is a publicly funded service, you can read PBS too. Or maybe you thought BBC was a listed company or something...
If this thread isn't a perfect example of idiocy, it's up there near the top.

OP is whining because NYT and Washington Post will only let him mooch off of them for a limited number of articles per month, whereas the UK government-funded BBC (like PBS) will let him read for free all he wants.

Duh.
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:53 AM
 
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its not funded through a tax on every household.
I agree with most of your post, however the BBC is funded by a tax on every household that owns a television, something which is not popular among sections of the British public.

Lots of claims of sophisticated TV Detector Vans and Handheld Detectors, when in reality what they really do is just compare the names and addresses on the electoral roll with the list of people who have paid the licence fee and target the names and addresses who don't have a licence. They then come knocking at your door like some kind of modern day version of the Gestapo.

The old TV Licence adverts were hilarious though, by the way the last one is a joke and the other one is real but the device they claim can pick up your tv signals did look like a 1980's style walkman. The others are all real adverts though.






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Old 04-30-2017, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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You will always get better coverage about the USA by going to the BBC.

They are writing for an audience (mostly international) that wants to understand the issues, and does not have a partisan ax to grind.

For the newspapers though, I understand the dilemma, they need a revenue stream. If the journalism is good by all means support them, if not drop them.
I like BBC for the same reason.

The news sites that require a subscription fee to keep reading are for-profit businesses. As for all the neat little tips about how to get around that, and read without paying, would the folks suggesting them also feel that it was okay to break into a newsbox and steal a paper?
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:51 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I am trying to find news on north korea but I have reached my " article limit" with NY times and the Washington post and I need to subscribe to find about a war looming with my country. Comical, what a joke of a media , these papers are not serious media.
It's interesting the some of the biggest jokes in "mainstream media" (read "fake news") think you should pay to read their propaganda (and wont let you block their advertising either). I never read their garbage, nor will I read any site that wants to force me to have their ads pop up all over the place.
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