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Old 05-07-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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A big part of the Republican power has come from opposition to Obamacare. Trumpcare will be run against as well.....we'll see if the Dems can boomerang off of that the way Republicans did Obamacare.


I haven't seen any weakness in Trump's support so I think Dems are being self deluded by their control of the media.
IMO its more a case Dems can't accept the sad truth about their party. Even o/s DC, they are in free fall, with just 1/3rd the governors, and 6x as many states with full GOP control of all chambers vs ones with full Democratic Party control.
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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The democrat party is too divided between the Bernie supports, the Hillary supporters, and normal people.
Normal people? I think those were the ones that flipped and voted for Trump. I don't see normal in the Colbert types nor the angry mobs or even the snowflakes.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Three millions more people voted for a Democrat over a Republican and your conclusion is that the nation is turning away from the Democratic Party?

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That entire margin, though, is accounted for solely by the states of New York and California.
More importantly, more people voted Republican for senator and house elections in 2016 than any election in US history.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:09 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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Default Democrats still clueless on healthcare. Divided and clueless!

Today on meet the depressed, Barbara boxer held up a stack of papers and ranted about 20 million that gained healthcare with Obamacare. Nobody said THOSE Are going to lose their healthcare.

And what about the remaining $330 million and their healthcare ( the majority of America)?

The do- nothing Femocrats are or were prepared to shoot on their hands and do nothing while 4, now 6 states are losing the only insurer they even have in their state. Virginia is next on the obamacare failure.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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More people vote democrat. It happens in presidential elections and state elections, but republican legislators have gerrymandered their way to victory. Democrats took just over 50% of votes in the NC state legislature, yet Rebublicans won 70% of the seats. You racists are more vocal than in years past, but you haven't grown in number.
Took a while to add it all up, but the total of all votes for the house in NC was 2423271 Republican to 2117227 Democrat. That's before even adding in third parties, so Democrats definitely did not take over 50% of the votes.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/re...north-carolina


District Democratic Republican
1 237938 100633
2 167299 219342
3 104077 214850
4 275501 128331
5 145597 204943
6 141480 205973
7 134344 209933
8 131428 187909
9 137335 191660
10 128114 219589
11 127972 229130
12 232451 114242
13 153691 196736
Total 2117227 2423271


(If you meant the state house, that's really a silly comparison given that 58 of 120 seats in the state house were uncontested elections in which there was only one candidate to vote for. I'll do the math on the contested elections.)

Contested State House elections were 1,034,190 Democrat to 1,330,871 Republican. That's not even close to 50%


District Democratic Republican
1 12,240 25,363
2 14,775 22,760
3 12638 23,273
6 20471 22,022
7 23329 11,072
8 21,166 21,329
9 17,007 22,869
10 10,514 26,440
11 24,624 12,924
13 12,024 29,188
15 5,797 13,273
16 11,656 23,649
17 16,549 32,757
18 22,006 14,011
25 13,099 27,969
26 18,716 25,899
28 10,897 26,161
30 37,094 13,132
34 31,335 15,049
35 22,145 25,117
36 23,875 25,295
37 22,569 27,448
40 23,786 23,402
41 27,491 20,745
44 15,433 15,086
46 11,836 19,607
49 26,975 26,155
50 27,278 20,347
51 14,262 17,904
53 12,678 19,548
54 24,773 18,534
55 13,719 20,901
59 19,060 28,980
65 14,336 21,857
67 10,637 20,421
69 11,970 23,249
70 7,789 24,856
74 15,626 27,209
78 7,579 27,040
81 11,438 24,379
82 17,900 24,636
83 13,407 22,927
84 11,266 25,414
86 12,766 21,226
88 21,754 21,286
90 8,641 23,678
91 12,430 24,639
92 22,941 19,246
93 19,433 21,910
94 8,372 24,467
101 27,476 8,691
103 16,922 21,702
104 19,952 24,700
105 17,689 21,853
109 13,755 21,687
113 16,726 26,848
115 25,257 20,183
118 17,549 21,754
119 17,480 17,757
120 11,282 29,047
Total 1,034,190 1,330,871

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Old 05-07-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by marigolds6 View Post
Took a while to add it all up, but the total of all votes for the house in NC was 2423271 Republican to 2117227 Democrat. That's before even adding in third parties, so Democrats definitely did not take over 50% of the votes.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/re...north-carolina


District Democratic Republican
1 237938 100633
2 167299 219342
3 104077 214850
4 275501 128331
5 145597 204943
6 141480 205973
7 134344 209933
8 131428 187909
9 137335 191660
10 128114 219589
11 127972 229130
12 232451 114242
13 153691 196736
Total 2117227 2423271


(If you meant the state house, that's really a silly comparison given that 58 of 120 seats in the state house were uncontested elections in which there was only one candidate to vote for. I'll do the math on the contested elections.)
I was referring to State races.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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More people vote democrat. It happens in presidential elections and state elections, but republican legislators have gerrymandered their way to victory. Democrats took just over 50% of votes in the NC state legislature, yet Rebublicans won 70% of the seats. You racists are more vocal than in years past, but you haven't grown in number.
This is the problem the democrat party has. They are in denial that there is even a problem.

33 Gov's are GOP 16 Dem and one independant. 66% GOP. You can't gerrymander a governorship.

29% of hispanics and 8% of Blacks voted for Trump, both improvements over Romney. Are they racists also?
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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Doesn't mean you can't still work with them.See that is the one thing the republicans don't know how to do ,..............work with someone.....anyone.
Like Obama worked with us? <sarcasm>

Funny how the left refused to hear the people when the left was in power now that the right is in power, they scream... please work with the us. Leftism has turned me off to Democrats, get control or oust your extremist. There are other people trying to support their families beside the poor or elite.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Democrats are still the only party representing the working class.

Just look at what the Trump administration is planning to do to these poor souls.
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No they're not. Their the party that "uses" the poor to give more power to the elite and uber rich. If you believe that not to be true, ask yourself this... after 8 years of Obama why are the poor and the working class still struggling?

Over the last three decades the Democratic party has been taken over by Washington based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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One reason is that the Democratic Party has become everything it once loathed and was against...elitist, globalist, interventionist, self-serving, warmongering and overflowing with hubris.. In years past, the Democratic Party presented itself as the party of "the working people" against the business interests of banks and corporations.

The current version of the Democratic Party has embraced big banks, financiers, billionaires and corporations, cozying up to Big Money for hundreds of millions in campaign contributions and Super-PAC funding.

As for supporting "the working people"--Hillary's comment about "deplorables" summed up the unspoken view of the Democratic Party elites.

Of Two Minds - Why the Democrats Can't Let Go of Losing
The Dems are violently against everything I stand for God, family and country. I'm not always enamored with the GOP but I'll stick with them.
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