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View Poll Results: Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?
Yes 25 54.35%
No 19 41.30%
I'm not sure 2 4.35%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-08-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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A quick and easy poll, inspired by PCALMike's original discussion thread,
Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?

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Old 05-08-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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A quick and easy poll, inspired by PCALMike's original discussion thread,
Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?

Feel free to keep discussion comments in that thread!
I see no poll...

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Yeah it creates the live post first, then the poll is added after. You were just too quick!
Haha, sorry...
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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I see no poll...

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Yeah it creates the live post first, then the poll is added after. You were just too quick!
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Yes - with this clarification:

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Yes. At least, at a very basic level, I think most healthcare options should be available to all. Perhaps the most cutting edge/state-of-the-art drugs and/or tools could be available for an additional cost. But eveyone should get basic coverage. ESPECIALLY (!!!) preventative healthcare.

It's very hard (AND EXPENSIVE!) to treat things when they are far along in their progression. But if you catch those same diseases at an earlier stage, you can much more easily treat them (And for MUCH Less money).

I say this as someone who works for a large biotech company - yes, I'm somewhat rooting against my best interests here. I'd rather see a society that takes care of everyone than one that does not. And I'll take less money in life if that is what it takes to get there.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Yes, this is why I support a single payer "Medicare for All" public option. Coverage would become optional after the age of 22, although you would still have the pay the tax regardless of whether you are currently enrolled or not (ie: like the FICA tax).
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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It's objectively not, so no.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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No, it is not a human right.

But we as a society have a moral obligation to take back control of its administration from the corporate cartels who are milking it like we haven't seen since the days of Al Capone. It's the easiest big money there has ever been in the history of man until and unless we collectively put a stop to their soulless extortion.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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It's objectively not, so no.
Are rights actually measured objectively? I don't think it's a science so I'm sure you can actually make this claim.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Are rights actually measured objectively? I don't think it's a science so I'm sure you can actually make this claim.
By definition, something can't be a right if it requires action from someone else. Anything that requires someone else to do something for you can't be a right. Rights are universal, and you can't universalize a positive right.

I suppose you can change the definition of a right to mean something that should be provided to people, but that's not what rights were intended to be. They're supposed to be a description of what people aren't allowed to do to you.
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