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Would you support California being it's own country? Why or why not?
The nation of California would be the US state of California and the Mexican states of Baja California and Baja California Sur.
That way we would have access to the Gulf of California and all its riches. What I want to know is how many people support the California Republic and how many people support staying in the Union. So with that being said, VOTE NOW!!!!
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Would you support California being it's own country? Why or why not?
The nation of California would be the US state of California and the Mexican states of Baja California and Baja California Sur.
That way we would have access to the Gulf of California and all its riches. What I want to know is how many people support the California Republic and how many people support staying in the Union. So with that being said, VOTE NOW!!!!
I didn't vote because with all the recent seismic activity it seems to me that the big break off is due soon. Become an island nation.
You know, I used to joke with my dad about how California should break off from the Union, reform the Bear Flag Republic, and be it's own country along with a few of the other Western states. But, in truth? No. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, really. California's diversity already gives it fits as a state, it would be even worse as a nation (and don't give me this crap about the rest of the country being better off without California...trust me, you wouldn't be, California is the most productive economy in the country).
Ironically though, Russia has already offered to recognize California as an independent nation, should we request it.
Edit, just for posterity, California's first proclamation of independence:
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To all persons, citizens of Sonoma, requesting them to remain at peace, and to follow their rightful occupations without fear of molestation.
The Commander in Chief of the Troops assembled at the Fortress of Sonoma gives his inviolable pledge to all persons in California not found under arms that they shall not be disturbed in their persons, their property or social relations one to another by men under his command.
He also solemnly declares his object to be First, to defend himself and companions in arms who were invited to this country by a promise of Lands on which to settle themselves and families who were also promised a "republican government," who, when having arrived in California were denied even the privilege of buying or renting Lands of their friends, who instead of being allowed to participate in or being protected by a "Republican Government" were oppressed by a "Military Despotism," who were even threatened, by "Proclamation" from the Chief Officer of the aforesaid Despotism, with extermination if they would not depart our of the Country, leaving all of their property, their arms and beasts of burden, and thus deprived of the means of flight or defense. We were to be driven through deserts, inhabited by hostile Indians to certain destruction. To overthrow a Government which has seized upon the property of the Missions for its individual aggrandizement; which has ruined and shamefully oppressed the laboring people of California, by their enormous exactions on goods imported into this country; is the determined purpose of the brave men who are associated under his command.
He also solemnly declares his object in the Second place to be to invite all peaceable and good Citizens of California who are friendly to the maintenance of good order and equal rights (and I do hereby invite them to repair to my camp at Sonoma without delay) to assist us in establishing and perpetuating a "Republican Government" which shall secure to all: civil and religious liberty; which shall detect and punish crime; which shall encourage industry, virtue and literature; which shall leave unshackled by Fetters, Commerce, Agriculture, and Mechanism.
He further declares that he relies upon the rectitude of our intentions; the favor of Heaven and the bravery of those who are bound to and associated with him, by the principle of self preservation; by the love of truth; and by the hatred of tyranny for his hopes of success.
He further declares that he believes that a Government to be prosperous and happyfying in its tendency must originate with its people who are friendly to its existence. That its Citizens are its Guardians, its officers are its Servants, and its Glory their reward.
– William B. Ide, Head Quarters Sonoma, June 15, 1846
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As a Californian unfortunately, I say No, California does not need to be its own country, the politics here are horrible and the budget is wrecked the state is broke, make it a country, and the U.S.A would just be sending money to the new country, horrible idea, I'd rather see Texas become 4 states [East,West,North and South], the Dakotas become one as well as the Virginias and Carolinas.
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, I say No, California does not need to be its own country, the politics here are horrible and the budget is wrecked the state is broke, make it a country, and the U.S.A would just be sending money to the new country, horrible idea, I'd rather see Texas become 4 states [East,West,North and South], the Dakotas become one as well as the Virginias and Carolinas.