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Sorry, but that's absurd. The law traditionally takes into account all kinds of factors - such as intent. And, yes, as you said, the issue was about Clinton lying - about a question that shouldn't have been asked, and was irrelevant to the country.
Re the bolded, again, that is your opinion, and nothing more.
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There's something radically wrong with a country that would impeach President Clinton for lies about a private sexual matter, yet not President Bush for lies that pushed us into a war.
Again, he wasn't impeached for lying, he was impeached for committing perjury and for obstruction of justice. There is a difference.
If the way things went for Clinton in that matter bothers you so much, then why haven't you left the U.S. in your rear view mirror?
If you are a national of another country and don't live in the U.S., why do you care?
If impeachment proceedings begin against Donald Trump, they will be nothing like the hasty, ill-prepared, slapdash proceedings against Clinton at all.
It would take a sizable group of Republicans and all the Democrats in the House to pass articles of impeachment, which is the accusal, and it would require a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict. Considering the Republican majorities in both Houses, that's a mighty tall order to fill.
Trump would have to lose all the Republican caucus's confidence before any proceedings began just to get the bill to the floor of the House, and that's very unlikely to happen unless the public all want Trump gone first. No one will act unless they know they have the full support of their voters first.
It's far more likely that Trump will resign if or when his popularity completely vanishes. Given his tendency to shoot himself in the foot, and then double down and do it again, resignation is more plausible, but not likely unless things get much worse for him than they are now.
I was just thinking about this. It was clear a year ago that Trump was unfit to be president, whether you were considering it in terms of his unstable temperament, his lack of experience, or his general ignorance. But it seems to me that one reason that Democrats were instantly ready to look for reasons to impeach dates back to the Republican treatment of Bill Clinton.
Prior to Bill Clinton, the last discussion of impeachment had been two decades earlier, triggered by Nixon's attempt to undermine the electoral process. By contrast, Bill Clinton was a generally popular president, smart, experienced, presiding over a fairly good period. But Republican were so rabid to undermine him that they latched onto everything they could, finally fixating on a relationship that was tawdry, but certainly not illegal, and certainly not imperiling the country, as had been the case with Nixon. They were fixating on his having lied, under oath, about a purely personal matter that no one should have been asking about.
But I think it may have opened the door for today. Because if Republicans were so quick to go off the deep end for something so inconsequential, surely that gives Democrat the ammunition to immediately object to something that is, again, potentially undermining the basic underpinnings of the country.
"I was just thinking about this"
Obviously your "thinking" skills are lacking!
Thank your for your opinion based on NOTHING but your own very BIAS with NOTHING to back it up.
Sorry, but that's absurd. The law traditionally takes into account all kinds of factors - such as intent. And, yes, as you said, the issue was about Clinton lying - about a question that shouldn't have been asked, and was irrelevant to the country.
There's something radically wrong with a country that would impeach President Clinton for lies about a private sexual matter, yet not President Bush for lies that pushed us into a war.
It's not about what's right or wrong; it was strictly political.
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Bill Clinton was payback for Nixon. Nixon should have finished his term, Clinton should never have been impeached and Trump will finish both terms and not be impeached.
And then the endless investigations of Hillary were payback for ??
I feel like both sides could just keep on doing this indefinitely.
Trump will not be impeached but I do hope the investigation drags out long enough to thwart any of his crappy plans. So far, I haven't seen a jobs bill or an infrastructure bill. His 'tax reform' is really just a tax 'cut" that will benefit the wealthy most of all.
So, let's keep him busy tweeting about Russia of which there were certainly inappropriate contacts and Mike Flynn should NEVER have been part of his cabinet and top secret information.
What a loony response. The issue wasn't with Bill lying. The issue wasn't with Bill lying about questions that "should have not been asked" (and whether they should or should not have been asked isn't up to you and, ultimately, irrelevant to the question of impeachment). The issue is that Bill committed perjury by lying under oath. Period. Well, that and he obstructed justice in the process.
Are you really so biased that you cannot see the difference in significance, the difference in magnitude, in lying about a private sexual relationship, versus lying about, for instance, collusion to undermine the integrity of the national election?
As I said - did you read? - he lied about a private intimate matter, which was legal, about which the questions should have not been asked, which did not impact the country. Can you possibly be so willfully dense as to think that's worse than the way the Trump investigation is headed? Yes, "so far," as you say. Yet, many smoking guns, and he's barely past the 100-day mark.
Funny, I can't help but wonder if you were one of the many accusing Hillary, who, despite all her years in the arena also has not been found guilty of anything serious, despite the appalling sight of Trump supporters chanting "String her up!"
The questions were pertinent to the lawsuit in question, which was sexual harassment. Do you think a president having an affair with a 22-year old White House intern may have fallen under the same umbrella as the other sexual harassment allegations? I'm not saying Monica wasn't willing, but the questions were pertinent. She apparently thought it may come up as she kept the dress and never washed the semen off of it. Kind of a weird situation.
But honestly, I always liked Bill Clinton and thought it was ridiculous what Republicans did to him. However, there were some serious charges against him for the Whitewater deal, which lead to the other stuff. No one was talking about impeaching him until he actually did something impeachable.
Trump may have a bad temperament for being a president, but so far all I've seen is innuendo and rumors tying him to anything impeachable. Despite that, people have been calling for his impeachment before he ever assumed office. All they had to do was wait and see what he did, but instead people starting this nonsense on the same day as the election, which makes it a little hard to take seriously.
Calling him a criminal before he ever had a chance to do anything criminal and calling all the people who voted for him uneducated rubes seems like a bad strategy. It would have been far better to lay off the histrionics and let him be Trump. If he is as bad as they say, he will do something that everyone hates and then go after him. Give him enough rope and eventually he will hang himself.
Overall, I'm happy we aren't getting another Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
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