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Old 05-23-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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It is interesting that whenever a mass shooting at a school or wherever occurs, that the same people who have the "do something about those Muslims" reactions tend to be the ones who panic when other people have the "we need to do something about gun violence" reaction.

The reality is that there shouldn't be sides in things like these. Look at the numbers, let me decide who/what are the most dangerous threats to a nations citizens rather than being reactionary.

Basically, you are for normalizing terror. Just like car accidents are normalized. Only terror is NOT normal, because it does NOT happen at the rate and frequency in all countries. In fact, this kind of terror happens in direct proportion with the amount of people in a country who believe in the desert fairy tale of Mohammed and his flying horse. The more people who believe that nonsense in a particular area, the more terror you have to put up with. RUN THE NUMBERS.


The sheer amount of resources expended on terror prevention are astounding. Terror grinds an economy to a halt. It disrupts travel, tourism, and free movement of people the way heart disease, gang killings or even swimming pool deaths do not.

The reason why there AREN'T more terror acts, btw, is because a multi national, multi billion dollar security apparatus exists to constantly monitor, prevent and stop terror and terrorists. The list of foiled terror attacks is infinitely longer than the successful ones that get through. And there are ones we won't ever even know about for decades that were foiled.



But go on. Tell us how more Islam makes us more safe, and how we shouldn't "worry" about it. Nope. Islam is just a personal, non-political belief system like Quakerism or Buddhism. All the same, right? Well, looking at the numbers of terror acts committed PER CAPITA, I'd say there's a problem. Looking at demographics for the next 100 years.... it's going to be an even BIGGER problem. But go ahead, hug a worried hijabi today and let her know you're a "safe place" for her. Because Islamaphobia is the real thing we should be worried about. Islam is peace and love, and if you don't agree you'll make people radical because everyone knows when you radicalize peace and love you get suicide bombers.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Whatever. It happened in Britain, and this is their problem.

So don't tell me about how this proves we need to go after ISIS or whatever. Miss me with all that.
This is a sick way of thinking.

This is the same thinking of Trump, "I will not be President for the World".

America is the top world leader and we need to work with and help defend our ally's. We do not live in a world of isolation anymore and never will.

What is to gain by attacking a concert primarily for teenagers? Terrorists train their kids to be ruthless killers. This has change the people at the concert forever, they will now look at people with suspicion, that is the goal of terrorism.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Dixie
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Basically, you are for normalizing terror. Just like car accidents are normalized. Only terror is NOT normal, because it does NOT happen at the rate and frequency in all countries. In fact, this kind of terror happens in direct proportion with the amount of people in a country who believe in the desert fairy tale of Mohammed and his flying horse. The more people who believe that nonsense in a particular area, the more terror you have to put up with. RUN THE NUMBERS.


The sheer amount of resources expended on terror prevention are astounding. Terror grinds an economy to a halt. It disrupts travel, tourism, and free movement of people the way heart disease, gang killings or even swimming pool deaths do not.

The reason why there AREN'T more terror acts, btw, is because a multi national, multi billion dollar security apparatus exists to constantly monitor, prevent and stop terror and terrorists. The list of foiled terror attacks is infinitely longer than the successful ones that get through. And there are ones we won't ever even know about for decades that were foiled.



But go on. Tell us how more Islam makes us more safe, and how we shouldn't "worry" about it. Nope. Islam is just a personal, non-political belief system like Quakerism or Buddhism. All the same, right? Well, looking at the numbers of terror acts committed PER CAPITA, I'd say there's a problem. Looking at demographics for the next 100 years.... it's going to be an even BIGGER problem. But go ahead, hug a worried hijabi today and let her know you're a "safe place" for her. Because Islamaphobia is the real thing we should be worried about. Islam is peace and love, and if you don't agree you'll make people radical because everyone knows when you radicalize peace and love you get suicide bombers.
Awesome post ... a "religion" that preaches hatred of all other religions to its children is not a religion but a cult.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Trump is trying to break that cycle of attack, pray for the victims, things go back to normal, another attack but he is being stopped by the feel good politicians and the PC social justice warriors at every turn.


To stop these attacks we need to change they way we think and react. Today the enemy is radical muslims.
We all know that it is not all muslims who are terrorists but it is always a muslim that attacks.

Trump is being criticized as usual for his trip to the middle east but maybe he is actually doing good.

We need change before this type of terrorist attack comes to America.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lkb0714 View Post
It is interesting that whenever a mass shooting at a school or wherever occurs, that the same people who have the "do something about those Muslims" reactions tend to be the ones who panic when other people have the "we need to do something about gun violence" reaction.

The reality is that there shouldn't be sides in things like these. Look at the numbers, let me decide who/what are the most dangerous threats to a nations citizens rather than being reactionary.
Oh goodness me! Common sense applied to a good old American superiority faux outrage rant? Wherever did you get the idea that would fly?
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Because complaining on the internet about how other people deal with tragedy and terrorism did so much to stop this attack, right?

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Old 05-23-2017, 07:49 AM
 
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Liberals are the reason that these Muslims can so easily kill. They think if they are just nicer to them they will love us. LMFAO this is so dumb. Muslims are not a religion they are a political ideology that uses terror to get its way. Liberals are so stupid. Over in SEA gays are getting 80 years for touching butts. LOL but the idiots in Orlando night club shooting blame guns. LMAO how dumb does one have to be to think ya that's the problem. If we had stricter gun laws in the USA the Muslims would love gays. This is so stupid its dangerous.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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Do you ever have anything to add to the discussion about places that aren't the United States other than, "whatever, not our problem?"

What does that add? If you don't care about what's happening anywhere else than your corner of the world, then why bother even making a post or opening up threads of discussion?


Do I see you telling the Canadians an Europeans who like to comment on US domestic issues that what's going on here is "not their problem?"
His schtick has been the same for ever.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump is trying to break that cycle of attack, pray for the victims, things go back to normal, another attack but he is being stopped by the feel good politicians and the PC social justice warriors at every turn.


To stop these attacks we need to change they way we think and react. Today the enemy is radical muslims.
We all know that it is not all muslims who are terrorists but it is always a muslim that attacks.

Trump is being criticized as usual for his trip to the middle east but maybe he is actually doing good.

We need change before this type of terrorist attack comes to America.
Trump isn't doing anything than Obama, he hasn't imposed any new vetting standards and we are four months into his term. I do give him credit for going to Saudi Arabia first, they need to take stronger action to address these terrorists, smart move by Trump.


How exactly do we need to change the way we think and react, I don't really see many alternatives other than what our security agencies are already doing. The problem is that some leaders seem to think that shouting out Radical Islam will help us along when every general and intelligence expert has indicated otherwise.
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Whatever. It happened in Britain, and this is their problem.

So don't tell me about how this proves we need to go after ISIS or whatever. Miss me with all that.
what????
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