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So you would take up arms and go to war for Germany or France if they were attacked? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Under the NATA charter, article 5, an attack on all (be it the U.S. or Germany) is an attack on many.
If we aren't going to honor our treaties and commitments to our allies, then we can immediately cut our defense budget from $660 billion to $100 billion, and put the savings toward debt reduction or lower taxes. We don't require more than $100 billion in defense spending to defend the lower 48 states, Alaska, and Hawaii. We only need to spend $660 billion if we want to retain the ability to defend all of our allies and "maintain the world order" (and sustain the defense industrial complex).
Under the NATA charter, atricle 5, an attack on all (be it the U.S. or Germany) is an attack on many.
If we aren't going to honor our treaties and commitments to our allies, then we can immediately cut our defense budget from $660 billion to $100 billion. We don't require more than $100 billion in defense spending to defend the lower 48 states, Alaska, and Hawaii. We only need to spend $660 billion (or more) if we want the retain ability to defend all of our allies and "maintain the world order" (and sustain the defense industrial complex).
I'm asking if you would fight. It's the same question we all asked the pro-Iraq War chicken-hawks.
The system that was devised out of the rubble of WWII and that protected the peace and gave us prosperity for over 70years is now in jeopardy because of a corrupt, incompetent, unintelligent small man. Ignorance rules the day in the USA today. The ramifications of Trump's action will be felt long after he is out of office and relegated to the ranks of history's worst leaders.
What makes you think he will be anywhere near the bottom with Obama
All right, I see. We need to maintain a strong military presence abroad, but not to go to war in Vietnam or Iraq. Certainly not those places. So where are we supposed to go to war then?
It is very simple, if a member country is attacked, then the other members come to aid. Vietnam did not attack a NATO member nation.
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And what "stupid way?" You don't think it's ridiculous that every president we have complains to Europe about how they don't spend enough on defense, and they just give us the razz, until the next president comes along and repeats the whole pointless cycle? If Trump wants to actually do something about this nonsense, I say good on him.
The stupid way which leaves our allies saying US cannot be trusted anymore. He speaks of NATO being obsolete, and refused to say US will come to their aid unless he was happy with the bookkeeping. No other US president has ever come even close to threatening NATO like that.
Nah man, you don't get it. They're our "allies" in the sense that we pay for their military defense and fight for them if they ever need it. It doesn't mean that they help us out in things that we want to do.
It is very simple, if a member country is attacked, then the other members come to aid. Vietnam did not attack a NATO member nation.
Learn some history.
North Vietnam attacked France, a NATO member at that time. The USA came to aid France and the South. How did France respond? It pulled out of NATO in 1966 and left the war to the Americans to fight.
If you think Germany or UK should have joined us in Vietnam, then so be it. It is your Moscow way of thinking, and I won't bother trying to figure it out.
It is very simple, if a member country is attacked, then the other members come to aid. Vietnam did not attack a NATO member nation.
The stupid way which leaves our allies saying US cannot be trusted anymore. He speaks of NATO being obsolete, and refused to say US will come to their aid unless he was happy with the bookkeeping. No other US president has ever come even close to threatening NATO like that.
All right, I see. They're our wonderful "ally" in the sense that if they're ever attacked we'll come to their aid. But they don't help us out with anything else.
And if you think that Frenchmen and Italians and Greeks or whatever will show up in force to help the United States if we're ever attacked, well, I want some of those fine drugs you been doing.
If you think Germany or UK should have joined us in Vietnam, then so be it. It is your Moscow way of thinking, and I won't bother trying to figure it out.
Moscow actually helped to arm the North Vietnamese, so who knows what you're talking about.
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