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Old 05-25-2017, 11:44 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Tons of American businesses do big businesses with Russia and especially many of the former Soviet Republics.

Hillary Clinton has a Russian on her team as a political strategist. However the media's constant trolling of Trump and Russians is gonna hurt us in the long run.

Instead of working with Russians to combat ISIS and further our space programs our media is working against our diplomatic efforts.

Same with China, we accuse China of stealing secrets but plenty of American military high ranking officials are the ones selling US secrets and handing them over to China without any sabotage, espionage, or hacking required.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I worked in Russia in 2006/2007 on a project funded by a Russian company. With our Fake Stream Media daily making up lies about Russia and Russians, I wouldn't want to be there now and get caught up in their reaction to our lying worthless media.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:16 AM
 
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I worked in Russia in 2006/2007 on a project funded by a Russian company. With our Fake Stream Media daily making up lies about Russia and Russians, I wouldn't want to be there now and get caught up in their reaction to our lying worthless media.
Because they are such kind and understanding people?
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:16 AM
 
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The sudden Russophobia displayed by many on the left is really remarkable, especially in light of the ideological heritage of the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat left, which is closely connected with that of the Russian communists.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:20 AM
 
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What goes on between legitimately sanctioned legal businesses in the US and Russia has nothing to do with the basis of the several investigations currently underway by GOP committees and the DOJ.

What US military personnel are selling US secrets to China? I have a friend in military counterintelligence. He'd love to know. He has sent plenty of guys to Federal prison.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:23 AM
 
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So exactly what legitimate business was Flippin' Flynn up to?
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:26 AM
 
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The sudden Russophobia displayed by many on the left is really remarkable, especially in light of the ideological heritage of the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat left, which is closely connected with that of the Russian communists.
You think the "left" is sympathetic to authoritarian governments? Head back to school, start in kindergarten, you have a lot to learn. Apparently you think "social democracy" (our form of government) is equal to communism, never mind the civil rights nightmare and authoritarianism.

In your world is a Yugo just like a Rolls Royce too? They ARE both automoblies.

Can you make the distinction between democracy, communism, socialism and authoritarianism?

Or too deep for you?

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Old 05-26-2017, 03:28 AM
 
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Tons of American businesses do big businesses with Russia and especially many of the former Soviet Republics.

1. Those businesses are NOT sitting in the Oval Office running the country.

2. I'm willing to bet those American businesses are not taking money from alleged Russian mobsters.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rime/98321252/

Nice try at spinning.

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Old 05-26-2017, 03:34 AM
 
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1. Those businesses are NOT sitting in the Oval Office running the country.

2. I'm willing to bet those American businesses are not taking money from alleged Russian mobsters.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rime/98321252/

Nice try at spinning.

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Some of them are taking money from Russian mobsters who are laundering stolen money through them.

Some know exactly what they are doing, others are coy about it.
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:43 AM
 
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The sudden Russophobia displayed by many on the left is really remarkable, especially in light of the ideological heritage of the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat left, which is closely connected with that of the Russian communists.
Russia hasn't been Communist for a couple decades and the current elite that run the country are pretty much the same type of people Sanders railed against here.
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