Trying to understand the liberal mindset (global warming, illegal, Boxer, independent)

[Roadking2003]

It's difficult to sort out their hypocrisy. Please help.

- Tim Cook: It's OK for Apple to do business with countries that execute men for being homosexual, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple in the USA.

- Bruce Springsteen: It's OK for me to refuse to do business with people I don't agree with, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to do business with people he doesn't agree with.

- Paypal: It's OK for us to do business with countries who execute transgender people but it's not OK for NC to tell transgender people which restroom they must use.

- Barbara Boxer: When the Pope speaks about Global Warming Catholics should listen to him. But when the Pope speaks about abortion, he is wrong and Catholics should not listen to him.

But Springsteen's ignorance is quite amusing. He doesn't even know the difference between and American Indian and somebody from the country of India.

"I mean, it's 2016, who still says they're Indian? This isn't 19th century America, we recognize these people are actually Native Americans," said Springsteen, adding "if Governor Haley wants to disrespect herself that's her business, but I will not play another concert in South Carolina as long as she's governor if she doesn't start using the proper term 'Native American.'"

While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;

[Gurn350]

The liberal double-standard: Gotta love it.

[numberfive]

Discriminating against discriminators isn't really a double-standard, is it? Isn't that more like fighting fire with fire, fighting for peace, etc?

I think a business refusing gays should be just as illegal as refusing blacks or asians.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by numberfive

Discriminating against discriminators isn't really a double-standard, is it?

Yes, it is.

Isn't that more like fighting fire with fire, fighting for peace, etc?

I think a business refusing gays should be just as illegal as refusing blacks or asians.

How about refusing to do business with somebody you don't agree with?

[CCbaxter]

How about this; we hold ourselves to a higher standard and don't use the lowest examples of human behavior as our model

[thunderkat59]

Sort of like libs don't understand why the party of "less government" seeks to legislate every aspect of a persons life. Just one of those things . . .

[bmw335xi]

There is a big double standard among ultra-liberals, with that being said, people tend to have a higher standard when it comes to their home.

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by thunderkat59

Sort of like libs don't understand why the party of "less government" seeks to legislate every aspect of a persons life. Just one of those things . . .

Exactly, both parties have double standards. That's why I'm an independent, I try to vote for the lesser evil at the time. This changes as well. In 2008/2012, it was the Republican Party and now in 2016, I think the Democratic Party is out of control.

[numberfive]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

How about refusing to do business with somebody you don't agree with?

That's fine to discriminate against an individual. It's illegal to discriminate against a protected class.

If I'm a small business owner, I can legally refuse to do business with someone that's gay if they're a total dingus. I can't legally refuse service to all gays, or blacks, or Jews, or disabled vets, etc.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

It's difficult to sort out their hypocrisy. Please help.

- Tim Cook: It's OK for Apple to do business with countries that execute men for being homosexual, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple in the USA.

One ids arguing for inclusion, the other for exclusion. Thats not hypocrisy by any definition.

- Bruce Springsteen: It's OK for me to refuse to do business with people I don't agree with, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to do business with people he doesn't agree with.

One is a boycott, the other is a refusal of service.

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Paypal: It's OK for us to do business with countries who execute transgender people but it's not OK for NC to tell transgender people which restroom they must use.

Both are absolutely wrong. but How is this indicative of liberals when our government regardless of who controls it has been doing this from the beginning of its existence ????

- Barbara Boxer: When the Pope speaks about Global Warming Catholics should listen to him. But when the Pope speaks about abortion, he is wrong and Catholics should not listen to him.

I doubt that is a direct quote, but in any case. the pope is right on both issues, whether or not to listen is on you.

But the pope also isnt speaking on legality, which is the flaw in your argument when speaking on abortion, morality isnt legislated. If it was, it would be illegal to have sex before marriage anyways.

But Springsteen's ignorance is quite amusing. He doesn't even know the difference between and American Indian and somebody from the country of India.

"I mean, it's 2016, who still says they're Indian? This isn't 19th century America, we recognize these people are actually Native Americans," said Springsteen, adding "if Governor Haley wants to disrespect herself that's her business, but I will not play another concert in South Carolina as long as she's governor if she doesn't start using the proper term 'Native American.'"

While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;

I googled that quote, it appears in 2 places, neither of which source it. the first of which looks like a satirical site, and the last half of the post looks 100% like a joke.


While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;

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