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It is disconcerting that there is quite a bit of unnecessary vitriol in this thread, yet it seems to be accepted.
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Originally Posted by gladhands
To be more specific, they need government intervention to help create high-paying jobs that don't require additional education.
Government does not create jobs or wealth for its citizens, and that is not its purpose. It can however, change taxation, regulation, resource constrictions, allow trade authority, and affect inflation in ways that provide a beneficial environment for our country's actual job creators, its people.
Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?
Trump would have had to replace, "Make America Great Again," with:
"Stop Whining and go Back to School!"
"Relocate if you want your Next Best Thing!"
"Stop Poisoning our Water, Get Educated!"
Wow, are you truly that incapable of understanding my posts, or is this willful ignorance? I'm not defending stereotyping, I'm pointing out how selectively it is used against only groups you don't like. If you are not able to understand that, there's nothing more I can say.
JAMS, I completely understand your point and disagree with your rationalizations. You fail to see the hypocrisy of defending stereotyping as acceptable when it suits your argument.
When did the rejection of self-pity become narcissism?
"I would do better if the man weren't keeping me down."
I would not consider sticking your head deep down the hole of circular reasoning to be a rejection of self-pity, it is just sticking your head in a hole to hide from the uninspiring complexities around you. You are so desperate for a mental cocoon and afgirmatuon you cannot write even a couple of sentences without relying on obvious circular reasoning.
Poor/low income whites believe that the only thing stopping them from taking their rightful place on top of the totem pole is black and brown people. They are masters at playing the blame game as you can even see on this very forum.
But the Republican party need these people to win elections so every two to four years they rattle their cage with the same rhetoric...gun rights, welfare reform (which a huge percentage of these people are on but think that welfare reform means kicking black and brown off only), affirmative action (which benefits white women more than any other group), crime and drugs (the unspoken heroine epidemic in rural white America which no one seems to want to discuss).
So the reason that lower and working class whites aren't required or asked to lift themselves up is because they don't believe that they need to do so. They just need to get 'others' out of their way and then people with 10th grade educations will all have jobs in factories and coal mines making $80k plus per year.
I've never seen a poor white person blame a black person for being poor that's honestly one of the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. Most poor white people and poor black people are poor for the same reasons.
Again people really need to get out of the their little bubble that they live in and actually learn about how people are across the country.
This is one of the biggest problems in our country imo. People that live in a bubble and never leave it.
Why don't people like you leave your little racially segregated white neighborhood in whatever blue county you live in and see the rest of the country?
In case you didn't know, the rust belt was always blue but since the Democrats are idiots and support corporate shills like Hillary, they lose!
I happen to be Black. My neighborhood is about 35% non-white, and I'm three blocks away from a predominantly black neighborhood, where I spend a lot of time. You must have me confused with someone else.
JAMS, I completely understand your point and disagree with your rationalizations. You fail to see the hypocrisy of defending stereotyping as acceptable when it suits your argument.
No, you obviously don't understand my point. I agree that all stereotyping is unacceptable, no matter who is doing it. I'm just pointing out that such stereotyping happens routinely right here on C-D when it comes to minorities--because it suits their argument, and that seems to be perfectly acceptable to a lot of posters here, but they get upset when it is turned back on them.
I would not consider sticking your head deep down the hole of circular reasoning to be a rejection of self-pity, it is just sticking your head in a hole to hide from the uninspiring complexities around you. You are so desperate for a mental cocoon and afgirmatuon you cannot write even a couple of sentences without relying on obvious circular reasoning.
Sorry if I didn't bring a present to your pity party.
For most people who claim they can't improve their situation, it comes down to spending their time coming up with excuses instead of a plan to make a change and working to implement it.
Bootstrapping was and is huge among working class whites and whomever color. They were lead to believe that the only way to a "better" life is class escape. Thus everybody stopped fighting and started bootstrapping (themselves or their kids), with mindsets like that the race to the bottom is the the only possible social outcome.
Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?
Maybe government can come up with a civil rights act for them and make them a protected group so they'll get advantages when it comes to hiring and education.
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