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Old 06-02-2017, 08:18 AM
 
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You have no idea what he is doing or not.
Neither does Trump, unfortunately. One thing for sure, his Tweets and threats haven't had an impact.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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He didn't tear up NAFTA -- he is suppose to renegotiate -- when he has time.
Ahahaha, yeah!
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Yep.

Obama's trade deals were horrible for the USA. Gonna take time for Trump to unwind them all.
Really? Which ones? And why? Don't hold back on the statistics and economic numbers. We can take it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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Really? Which ones? And why? Don't hold back on the statistics and economic numbers. We can take it.

Ah, requesting specifics. Better pack supplies for your wait.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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If he was working any deals everyone would know about, you know and I know it. He is just isolating us, not a good idea.
That is exactly what he is doing. You want better trade, you don't aggravate and dismiss your partners.

And give your competitors the chance to fill your shoes.

Maybe if we stop Germany from building cars in South Carolina and Tennesee, THAT will help?
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Yep.

Obama's trade deals were horrible for the USA. Gonna take time for Trump to unwind them all.
Which ones specifically?
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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That is exactly what he is doing. You want better trade, you don't aggravate and dismiss your partners.

And give your competitors the chance to fill your shoes.

Maybe if we stop Germany from building cars in South Carolina and Tennesee, THAT will help?
Why stop with the Germans, wait until Japan and China tell us to stick it were the sun don't shine, when one looks at all the jobs actually provided by our trade partners we are in no position to just throw agreements in the trash. Smart wheeler and dealers renegotiate deals if they are bad deals, so far trump has renegotiated Nothing, and if he were working on any of them we would all know about, after all he loves tooting his horn. This is not going to go well for the Nation.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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In order to reverse the trade deficit, we would have to restart whole industries like consumer electronics, subway/passenger rail car building, leather, textile and shoe machinery, etc. There is not 1 factory in the USA that makes toilets or faucets or microscopes or frames for glasses or mine hoists or pajamas.


Rebuilding the US industrial infrastructure will require an industrial policy. That is anathema to hard core conservatives since it smacks of socialism and godlessness. And the Trumpster has surrounded himself with economic advisors like Stephen Moore and Larry Kudlow, who believe wholeheartedly in "supply side" theory; that by drastically reducing taxes, an economic dynamism will be unleashed that will transform the USA into the industrial powerhouse that it once was.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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Really? Which ones? And why? Don't hold back on the statistics and economic numbers. We can take it.
Solyndra for one, lost a ton of tax payer cash and in hindsight called that a good investment. Solyndra was just one of many failed green energy investments which should have gone into research.


then there was the stimulus package and infrastructure shovel ready projects... whpo knows where that money went or is sitting and recall obama snickered when confronted about shovel ready jobs, admitting that was an oops.


Banks were forced to take loans they didn't need or want.


then there was the training of 4 militants at a cost of 50 million dollars, another good obama investment.


then obama screwed GM shareholders in favor of the unions, another good investment


UE went way up with federal regs to suffocate business and began to drop when the workforce no longer looked for jobs, taking them out of the statistical pool to calculate unemployment.


just for starts
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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U.S. trade deficit climbs 5.2% in April to $47.6 billion - MarketWatch

"The nation’s trade deficit rose 5.2% in April, keeping the U.S. on track to post a bigger gap in 2017 than in 2016."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-tr...123619162.html

"So far this year, the trade deficit is up 13.4 percent from a year earlier to $186.6 billion."

Recall that first quarter GDP was only 1.2% and the trade deficit widening is expected to drag down 2nd quarter GDP as well.

Time to stop Tweeting and start making those "deals"!
I am just curious do anti-Trumpers really want us to renegotiate/tear up NAFTA? You kept talking about NAFTA as a good thing, then come out and say trade deficits are bad... do you guys actually have any ideas what you are saying?
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