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View Poll Results: Is Russia an enemy state
Yes 56 55.45%
No 45 44.55%
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Old 06-06-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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We don't own the moral high ground. How many foreign elections has the US tampered with? How many Governments have we interfered with?
Iran
Cuba (failed attempt)
El Salvadore
Libya
Syria
Iraq
Afghanistan
Vietnam (failed attempt)
Just to name a few.
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Remember, democracy = oppression of the out voted minority.
Ironically, the vocal losers of the recent election are incensed at their defeat, and its consequences.
. . .
Of course, all that democratic abuse is by consent of the governed.
Once consent is given, shut up, sit down, pay and obey.
. . .
If you are unaware of how and when you consented, please contact your local "public servants" and ask for an explanation.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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I did not consent, at least not when I was not under government duress. Who would consent to be a slave to another, unless threatened by government goons? Sure people "consent" when they have to "consent" to exercise their natural rights that they would have absent of government. It is ironic, that people must subjugate their liberty for mere "privileges" isn't it? Seems like a very poor exchange
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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Now that we have evidence that they attempted to actually change our ballots, can we conclude that Russia is a direct threat to American democracy? This goes beyond trying to influence an election.
Where did you read that? You got a link?
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:10 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Now that we have evidence that they attempted to actually change our ballots, can we conclude that Russia is a direct threat to American democracy? This goes beyond trying to influence an election.
What evidence specifically?
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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We don't own the moral high ground. How many foreign elections has the US tampered with? How many Governments have we interfered with?
Iran
Cuba (failed attempt)
El Salvadore
Libya
Syria
Iraq
Afghanistan
Vietnam (failed attempt)
Just to name a few.
The Obama admin hacked every single major political party involved in the recent French elections.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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What evidence specifically?
Yeah, I'm curious about that as well.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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When was the last time we felt we could walk into a room with a Russian leader and feel like we're talking to an old friend? Even when we were allies in war, we knew better then to trust them. I cannot remember once in my entire life when any American thought Russia WASN'T our enemy.

Until Trump came along.

And suddenly formerly loyal Americans jumped on board with him and sung the praises of Mother Russia.

Ignorance may be bliss but it should never lead to betraying your country.

OH REALLY????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_0YS7tK04

Obama was reeeeeal chummy with the Russians....... No one in the media wanted to know what it was all about!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyuae0Z9_hA

Obama gave Putin what he wanted on a missle defense system!! But wait!! Why is he giving OUR MORTAL ENEMY ANY CONCESSION ON THIS???

Romney said Obama was too chummy with Russia and was made fun of by Obama......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo

Look at this fool ^^^

Now RUSSIA IS THE BOOGEY MAN !
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Now that we have evidence that they attempted to actually change our ballots, can we conclude that Russia is a direct threat to American democracy? This goes beyond trying to influence an election.
If that's what makes a country and enemy nation, the USA is the enemy of lots of nations. We've been influencing elections for decades.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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We don't own the moral high ground. How many foreign elections has the US tampered with? How many Governments have we interfered with?
Iran
Cuba (failed attempt)
El Salvadore
Libya
Syria
Iraq
Afghanistan
Vietnam (failed attempt)
Just to name a few.
A lot more than that list. It's a quite common (and not noteworthy) event.
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