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Old 06-08-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That's right, China is a utopia where everything is great! -- at least that's what the government wants people to think. Which is why you can't access google/facebook, and most news outlets in China.

Well, I tried uploading a video to Chinese social media today. Videos go though a rigorous human screening process. I didn't even say anything bad. In one section of my video, I merely said "You have to be careful as a pedestrian in China, because pedestrians don't always have the right of way, unlike in America." Well, my video failed the auditing process. They told me to remove that clip, which I did, and then I was allowed to upload the video.

This is just a little example of what happens in a communist/socialist one party state with little freedoms. In America, we may not be 100% free, but let's hope we never become what China is.

Oh! And by the way, don't buy rice in China. You might be eating plastic (that also goes for other foods/dog food for that matter [my friend's dog almost died of liver disease on Chinese dog food]).



YOU think you didn't say anything bad. But in that one mere sentence you were undiplomatic, you criticized China and tried to make it look bad while you propagandized America and tried to make it look better. That's why it failed the auditing process. I think China is sick and tired of Americans constantly condescending and criticizing the Chinese while propagandizing and stroking the American ego. You're lucky they still allowed you to upload anything at all to their social media after a gaffe like that.

And now here you are doing it again on more than one count, criticizing and condemning China while propagandizing and stroking your own American ego because somebody else in another country had the temerity to censor you. It's their country, their rules - you should get over your spitefulness and educate yourself about international diplomacy.


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Old 06-08-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Despite China's totalitarian rule, I have witnessed more individual freedoms expressed there than in many places right here in the US. Traffic rules are only lightly followed or enforced, driving on the sidewalk is sometimes acceptable, smoking a joint outside a club with a police officer right across the street doesn't result in anything but getting high, peeing on the sidewalk is just a thing that happens, walking down the street naked is an act ignored by many, and it's perfectly ok to sell raw meat from a table right on the street with a lit smoke hanging out of your mouth.

I both fear and adore China.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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If you're trying to make a point to "right-wingers" about how China is not what they think it is then you should also accept the validity of my previous post that China is not what left-wingers think either. Righto?

I don't think most liberals think about China much.

Those that do probably consider many of China's policy as reminding them of the right-wing's.

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Old 06-08-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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In my humble opinion, you shouldn't expect China to give you the same freedom you have here.

They know you post from America (IP address). So why bother saying anything?
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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YOU think you didn't say anything bad. But in that one mere sentence you were undiplomatic, you criticized China and tried to make it look bad while you propagandized America and tried to make it look better. That's why it failed the auditing process. I think China is sick and tired of Americans constantly condescending and criticizing the Chinese while propagandizing and stroking the American ego. You're lucky they still allowed you to upload anything at all to their social media after a gaffe like that.

And now here you are doing it again on more than one count, criticizing and condemning China while propagandizing and stroking your own American ego because somebody else in another country had the temerity to censor you. It's their country, their rules - you should get over your spitefulness and educate yourself about international diplomacy.


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Touchy. I was just stating a fact. It's a travel video meant to educate US tourists to keep them safe. You have to be more careful as a pedestrian in China. Period. If they can't handle that, then they're the biggest snowflakes of the world.

Oh, and you're concerned about an American acting undiplomatic towards China? LOL if you only knew the kind of conversations Chinese had about the US. Did you know many Chinese also cheered on 9/11?

What are you anyway? A commie sympathizer or something?
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Most Chinese are nationalists (not saying there is anything wrong with it) They stay the same way even if they are in a different country. But I have to say that most seem to respect other people's culture and social norms when they are in foreign countries.

They like to criticize Japan and America in their country. From what I can see, many (many, not all) of them have been brainwashed as well. But oh well, what do you expect? Their country, their rule. Just be careful of what you say.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Austin
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YOU think you didn't say anything bad. But in that one mere sentence you were undiplomatic, you criticized China and tried to make it look bad while you propagandized America and tried to make it look better. That's why it failed the auditing process. I think China is sick and tired of Americans constantly condescending and criticizing the Chinese while propagandizing and stroking the American ego. You're lucky they still allowed you to upload anything at all to their social media after a gaffe like that.
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What do you mean by "China is sick and tired"? Do you mean the people or their govt? Because aside from the matter of getting your message posted, who cares what a govt thinks about external criticism? All govts are defensive and self-protective and hate criticism. Why should anybody be sensitive to that?

Or do you mean that the Chinese people are sick and tired? Because if you do then I'm here to tell you that they know nothing about what Americans really think or say about them. They know virtually nothing about us. Educated people in large cities have asked me where I'm from and I say 'Texas' ... thinking that everybody has heard of Texas (for better or worse) and they stare at me like huh? They don't know. They aren't stupid people by any stretch of the imagination but their world is VERY closed off so don't assume you know how they feel about the rest of the world. In truth my experience has been that not only are they NOT hostile towards Americans, but they are actually very very curious and fascinated by America. It's difficult for them to express it though because it's political and they know that politics is *the* form of discussion that their govt will come down on like a hammer.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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China is not the only country around the world where the pedestrian doesn't have the right of way.
It is a good thing to know the rules where you travel.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I don't think most liberals think about China much.

Those that do probably consider many of China's policy as reminding them of the right-wing's.

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I think they think about it. It just doesn't click with their narrative of a socialist state. It represents reality and for certain most liberals don't make heavy use of reality in coming to their conclusions.
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I think they think about it. It just doesn't click with their narrative of a socialist state. It represents reality and for certain most liberals don't make heavy use of reality in coming to their conclusions.
First off, China calls themselves communist, not socialist, and they aren't even communist. No country in the world has ever truly been communist, because a real communist country wouldn't have a government.

And secondly, China since Deng Xiaoping has been a perverted mess of capitalism and totalitarianism.
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