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So you want to force us at gunpoint to help you? That's called armed robbery.
I don't want your help at all. I want Americans to be given the right to buy into a non-profit public option with rates set based on the giant risk pool that would ensue from that.
I don't want your help at all. I want Americans to be given the right to buy into a non-profit public option with rates set based on the giant risk pool that would ensue from that.
A right doesn't need others to pay or require government subsidies. Plenty of charities available to provide what you need.
The whole point of the thread was to get you all thinking about the multiple ways that your healthcare dollars are funneled to Wall Street. The reason the public option was shot down is simple. There are some very powerful lobbies representing these companies and they were not interested in losing the big money they are making off of our broken healthcare system.
That's why you and your employer can't buy into non-profit Medicare or something similar. But don't worry about me. I actually work in the industry, so the current system works to my financial advantage. It's still not the right thing for our country, and it does leave small business subsidizing big business with little choice.
Two major factions worked against a public option. HC related big business and most of the Right. Obamacare was as a result a bow to both.
I for one still support a Public option. Both as a doc wanting to retain my choice of HC plans I do business with, and who I take care of. And as a patient wanting more choices in HC plans.
As part of my compensation when I work, I receive employer sponsored health insurance. My employer pays part of the premium that would otherwise come to me in the form of wages or other benefits, or kept by him to invest as he saw fit, to a for profit insurance company that is publicly traded on Wall Street.
I also pay part of the insurance premium, using my wages that I would otherwise spend, donate or invest elsewhere. My employer must offer this benefit in order to remain competitive in terms of attracting competent employees. It is even mandated to a certain degree, depending on your state and the size of your company.
Now, why should we be forced to buy this product from a for-profit corporation that in turn does business with huge for-profit hospital corporations, and restricts my use of practitioners to their contracted panels?
Can anyone please explain to me why the public option in Obamacare, where my employer could have paid premiums into a Medicare for everyone type system instead of subsidizing some other CEOs multi million dollar salary, was shot down?
Excellent Topic
When it comes to our Health care, the only ones being served is the finance sector while everyone else is punished.
I'll bet every 40 cents of your health-care dollar goes to wall street
As part of my compensation when I work, I receive employer sponsored health insurance. My employer pays part of the premium that would otherwise come to me in the form of wages or other benefits, or kept by him to invest as he saw fit, to a for profit insurance company that is publicly traded on Wall Street.
I also pay part of the insurance premium, using my wages that I would otherwise spend, donate or invest elsewhere. My employer must offer this benefit in order to remain competitive in terms of attracting competent employees. It is even mandated to a certain degree, depending on your state and the size of your company.
Now, why should we be forced to buy this product from a for-profit corporation that in turn does business with huge for-profit hospital corporations, and restricts my use of practitioners to their contracted panels?
Can anyone please explain to me why the public option in Obamacare, where my employer could have paid premiums into a Medicare for everyone type system instead of subsidizing some other CEOs multi million dollar salary, was shot down?
When I think of the utter corruption and abuse in the health "care" industry, this greedy scoundrel comes to mind.
Martin Shkreli raised the price of a drug that has been around for decades From $13.50 a Tablet to $750.
His response was you can get a discount through your insurance and will not be paying that much
And this is why our insurance premiums are sky high
That doesn't answer why the public option was shot down, and self-funded plans are still administrated by an insurance company. So you can " thread fail" me all day long, but you did not answer the question.
Senate Democrats were engaged in a highly contentious debate throughout the fall of 2009, and the political life of the public option changed almost daily. The debate reached a critical impasse in November 2009, when Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), who usually caucuses with the Democrats, threatened to filibuster the Senate bill if it included a public option.
Because America is the only country where political bribery and corruption is perfectly legal,
and the industry has bribed nearly every member of Congress.
Pretty Much
We need to throw all lobbyists out of DC!
The Pharma and Insurance Industries along with the Bankers own Washington DC
Martin Shkreli raised the price of a drug that has been around for decades From $13.50 a Tablet to $750.
His response was you can get a discount through your insurance and will not be paying that much
And this is why our insurance premiums are sky high
The med at $13 is not profitable. Would you want all manufacturers to stop making that medicine and all people can die or paying $750 so that some people can stay alive?
The public option was shot down because a majority of American citizens voted for representatives and senators whom were opposed to the public option.
There I answered it for you, now feel free to move somewhere with UH, Have fun waiting in line!
Thread closed.
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Actually No
The Lobbyists shot it down who own DC
Majority of Americans have no say in it nor did they ever
“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”
One thing that does have an influence?Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a “statistically non-significant impact,” economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence.
Most of the people in DC including lobbyists are financial terrorists
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