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Old 06-19-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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So, I checked--in Idaho..Sex Offenders on Parole seldom get Internet..much less Social Media.

But, once off of Parole..they have the same rights any citizen.

Agree with the ruling? Disagree?




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Old 06-19-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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Hmm, interesting ruling, unanimous too. It's a ruling I suspect they'll have to revisit over the years.

Here in NY the court may assign one of the following three risk levels:

Level 1 (low risk of repeat offense), or
Level 2 (moderate risk of repeat offense), or
Level 3 (high risk of repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists).

On top of that the court also determines whether a sex offender should be designated a sexual predator, a sexually violent offender or a predicate sex offender.

Should a Level 3 sexual predator really be allowed access to Facebook? On the other hand, should a Level 1 be denied? It really gets convoluted and I don't think today's ruling helped.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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So, I checked--in Idaho..Sex Offenders on Parole seldom get Internet..much less Social Media.

But, once off of Parole..they have the same rights any citizen.

Agree with the ruling? Disagree?




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I have mixed feelings.

On the one hand, there is the free speech issue. I take that very seriously.

OTOH, some of these perps get to wear ankle bracelets as a condition of parole, for darn good reasons. I'm not sure why it's OK to limit their physical movements, but not their internet movements.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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I have mixed feeling about this too. The ruling was probably the correct one, but dang.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Hmm, interesting ruling, unanimous too. It's a ruling I suspect they'll have to revisit over the years.

Here in NY the court may assign one of the following three risk levels:

Level 1 (low risk of repeat offense), or
Level 2 (moderate risk of repeat offense), or
Level 3 (high risk of repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists).

On top of that the court also determines whether a sex offender should be designated a sexual predator, a sexually violent offender or a predicate sex offender.

Should a Level 3 sexual predator really be allowed access to Facebook? On the other hand, should a Level 1 be denied? It really gets convoluted and I don't think today's ruling helped.
Let me get this straight...

Many sexual predators use Social Media

1) to obtain pornographic images of children, or
2) to identify potential future victims, or
3) to communicate with future victims

and the Supreme Court is giving sexual predators the Green Light to continue?

If the State can take away a felon's ability to own weapons, States can block sexual predators from Social Media. I'm not seeing any difference between the two.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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In Missouri, they usually deny them social media as a condition of parole. Just like on Halloween, they must keep porch lights turned off and there must be a sign on the door stating that the house does not participate in Halloween. The sheriff's dept checks all the houses. Get caught failing to register three times, mandatory 10 years. Can't live near a school, park or daycare center.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Hmm, interesting ruling, unanimous too. It's a ruling I suspect they'll have to revisit over the years.

Here in NY the court may assign one of the following three risk levels:

Level 1 (low risk of repeat offense), or
Level 2 (moderate risk of repeat offense), or
Level 3 (high risk of repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists).

On top of that the court also determines whether a sex offender should be designated a sexual predator, a sexually violent offender or a predicate sex offender.

Should a Level 3 sexual predator really be allowed access to Facebook? On the other hand, should a Level 1 be denied? It really gets convoluted and I don't think today's ruling helped.

The only way you can legally deny liberty to any individual, is to lock them up, or kill them....
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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The only way you can legally deny liberty to any individual, is to lock them up, or kill them....
That is what should be done to child sex offenders.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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“In sum, to foreclose access to social media altogether is to prevent the user from engaging in the legitimate exercise of First Amendment rights,” Kennedy’s ruling states. “It is unsettling to suggest that only a limited set of websites can be used even by persons who have completed their sentences. Even convicted criminals – and in some instances especially convicted criminals – might receive legitimate benefits from these means for access to the world of ideas, in particular if they seek to reform and to pursue lawful and rewarding lives.”

First, this would not preclude sites like Facebook from banning them.

Second, they are wrong. We do have rights acknowledged in the Constitution. The Constitution also describes how those rights may be removed. They may be removed through due process. Convicted criminals have been afforded due process. There is no reason we can not make a ban a part of a sentence. We do it for voting. We can remove a right to vote but not for accessing a website?

Now, if one wants to argue that one should be able to seek out treatment and or certain requirements and prove that they have met those requirements to apply to have the restrictions removed, that's fine argue it. That isn't something the Supreme Court is suppose to address though.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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Hmmm...

I think I agree with this. Generally speaking, it's better for all of us that those released from prison are severely restricted from enjoying the spoils of a free society. If you severely limit where they can live, what they can do, where they can work, and how they can communicate, they're more likely to be bored and if you have a history of raping people, boredom might be kind of dangerous for the rest of us.

Also, if I'm understanding this right, it's saying the courts can't restrict social media use, but the companies that run these sites still could.

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That is what should be done to child sex offenders.
Well, you're in luck. That's what they do. I've never heard of a child molester just getting community service.
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