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Really. You don't know when he did it, but you know that he did it.
Yes, I do know.
I have no idea when the last time he talked to each and every one of them was, but they've talked to him about it.
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So where are all those generals that want to ban transgenders in the military now? Have any of them stepped forward to support of Trump in this?
That is not the way it works. They are supposed to be non-political. Anything they say will be said quietly among themselves. This is why you didn't hear them complaining when Obama had the original change foisted on them in 2016 when they specifically, and on the record, said it would create issues in military readiness.
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I have no idea when the last time he talked to each and every one of them was, but they've talked to him about it.
That is not the way it works. They are supposed to be non-political. Anything they say will be said quietly among themselves. This is why you didn't hear them complaining when Obama had the original change foisted on them in 2016 when they specifically, and on the record, said it would create issues in military readiness.
Yet several of them have come out in defense of transgender service people. Curious.
Yet several of them have come out in defense of transgender service people. Curious.
They don't want troops who have been encouraged to declare themselves transgendered not taken care of, not to mention they want to make sure they aren't punished. They are not saying anything other than nothing has changed and will not change until you see official policy, that is not supporting having openly transgendered service members. That is appropriately supporting and reassuring troops who have followed policy that they are seeking to prevent them from being bitten in the butt by political whims. You would think you would appreciate that. They are defending their people, not defending an ill conceived policy, rush forced on them in the waning months of Obama's presidency, that they all stated they had reservations about, although almost all flat out said was a very bad idea for military readiness.
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That is not the way it works. They are supposed to be non-political. Anything they say will be said quietly among themselves. This is why you didn't hear them complaining when Obama had the original change foisted on them in 2016 when they specifically, and on the record, said it would create issues in military readiness.
Very true. Even those that we personally know has said something in a group setting or if they have posted anything on FB, it has been very, very carefully worded.
For this same reason, there is a very big reason they are not allowed to have anything related to presidential elections on base or say/do anything against the president or ranking officials. It is punishable under UCMJ. They are very limited with their free speech because they are government property.
With 15,000 serving trans, the military cannot afford to lose that many soldiers. That's too many to allow a President spewing hot gas to ever happen.
And then, there is still the issue of honorably discharged trans soldiers. Are they going to be cut off from the VA benefits they earned and deserve?
Trump will drop it except at rallies, where he'll pull it out of his jumbo-sized bag of complaints. The issue is more valuable as Trumpette fodder than the reality anyway. Hot gas is all the Donald has for sale. It's all he has ever had.
There are lots of illnesses and con that disqualify people from being able to join the military, and many of those also would get a current service member medically discharged. Anything that requires daily medication to function is almost always a disqualifier. I was under the impression transgendered individuals, once they start taking them, actually require hormones to function normally. Just based on that alone, no, I don't they should.
I would have to agree with the above. I have a very close friend who is Transgender and his mood swings are so bad that they prevent him from functioning normaly. There is no way he could be in the military.
With 15,000 serving trans, the military cannot afford to lose that many soldiers. That's too many to allow a President spewing hot gas to ever happen.
And then, there is still the issue of honorably discharged trans soldiers. Are they going to be cut off from the VA benefits they earned and deserve?
Trump will drop it except at rallies, where he'll pull it out of his jumbo-sized bag of complaints. The issue is more valuable as Trumpette fodder than the reality anyway. Hot gas is all the Donald has for sale. It's all he has ever had.
15,000 serving Transgender people serving? Prove it.
With 15,000 serving trans, the military cannot afford to lose that many soldiers. That's too many to allow a President spewing hot gas to ever happen.
And then, there is still the issue of honorably discharged trans soldiers. Are they going to be cut off from the VA benefits they earned and deserve?
Trump will drop it except at rallies, where he'll pull it out of his jumbo-sized bag of complaints. The issue is more valuable as Trumpette fodder than the reality anyway. Hot gas is all the Donald has for sale. It's all he has ever had.
That number is ridiculous. "The Department of Defense commissioned the Rand Corporation to perform a study that was published in 2016. The Rand study estimated a range of between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender personnel actively serving, and anywhere from 830 to 4,160 serving in the reserves." So the numbers are miniscule, and they can be reduced to zero eventually through attrition.
Meanwhile, no new recruits who have any known mental illness should be admitted to the military. The mission is too important to be messing around with the drama, the drugs, the mood swings, and the cost of treating mental problems, including gender dysphoria. In fact, it's utterly absurd that we're even discussing it at all, and a testament to the damage that political correctness has done to the general population. We are positively addle brained as a society anymore. Of course the military should not admit gender dysphorics. It's utterly inane to even consider it.
They don't want troops who have been encouraged to declare themselves transgendered not taken care of, not to mention they want to make sure they aren't punished. They are not saying anything other than nothing has changed and will not change until you see official policy, that is not supporting having openly transgendered service members. That is appropriately supporting and reassuring troops who have followed policy that they are seeking to prevent them from being bitten in the butt by political whims. You would think you would appreciate that. They are defending their people, not defending an ill conceived policy, rush forced on them in the waning months of Obama's presidency, that they all stated they had reservations about, although almost all flat out said was a very bad idea for military readiness.
There are 18 other countries who accept transgender service members.
If the US has reservations about this policy, perhaps they should look at how other countries handle this. And for the umpteenth time transgender people have served in the military since the beginning of time. The only difference here is that they are allowed to be open about who they are - just like straights, bis, gays, lesbians and queers.
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