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Service members prescribed viagra (or other versions of it) do not need to take that medication on a daily or other regular basis to maintain medical stability. No one needs to keep taking viagra in a combat situation.
You know what happens if a transgender person doesn't take daily hormones? Nothing.
For all those who think that banning transgenders from serving in the military is a great cost-saving measure, consider that according to a study by Military Times, the U.S. military spends $84 million annually for erectile dysfunction medications. I don't know about you, but I don't see why "I" have to pay taxes so a soldier or a sailor can get or maintain a stiffie. How does that contribute to military readiness?
Hormones aren't required daily, though, and it's not some medication that without it causes some kind of medical crisis, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Even if they had to be taken daily, any soldier has the capability of swallowing a pill. That doesn't exactly take a doctor or special skills.
And you're all still missing the point. The military was working on rules for this. There would've been denials and admissions based on individual cases, but at least some trans people could serve. The fact that thousands already do shows that it is reasonably possible, and the majority of them don't even go through transition during their service anyway. And if any issues ever did arise during service, there was nothing to prevent them from being discharged later on like with any other demographic.
Uhm, not sure where you are getting your medical info, but yes, they do need the hormones once started or it will cause all kinds of physical, emotional, and psychological issues during the time period while their body readjusts. It has nothing to do with the capacity to take a pill, it has to do with what happens if the pill can't be given to them to take.
I am not missing the point. Military service is not about the right to a job.
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There are a lot of active duty military service men and women have been processed out for the exact same reason (medical readiness.)
Why is this a discrimination issue?!
If you need to take meds on daily basis for a pre existing condition, then you shouldn't be serving.
If there were good enough to serve yesterday, they should still be good enough to serve today.
The fact that you and other continue to insist that this is the same as treating some kind of disease is baffling.
In all fairness, this is going to have to be addressed. They actively sought some of these individuals to come out in the open to start the process of preparing the leaders for the change. These people were living and serving as their biological gender, some with the anticipation of transitioning once they left the service. These were stellar service members and they spent a great deal time speaking to leadership groups. I happen to be friend's with one's wife. (And, contrary to all the flap about swinging penises in group showers, all the ones we are aware of are FtM, not MtF). This particular service member is a Navy Captain. At any rate, the service member has, with official encouragement, started the transition but would have never done so otherwise. It would not be fair to this service member to now be run out. There will need to be some type of waivers for these folks. Yeah, if they keep on the hormones they will be non-deployable, but for this limited group, because they are in a very unique situation not of their own making, they need to be waivered until retirement, at minimum. My friend's spouse is prepared to suspend treatment until retirement, serve as they originally were doing then transition after retirement, and I fully support that.
I think if they do not take hormones or have a sex change operation, there’s no reason they cannot serve.
To serve openly however is, probably at the expense of the US government who’ll be forced to pay for those treatments and sex change operations and psychological counseling that comes with all of that.
Once they are active duty and serving openly, the military cannot just stop their treatment. I guarantee you the same people would say it is cruel and inhumane to stop their treatment when they really need it.
Allowing certain group of people with chronic illness to serve will create a lot of potential problems for the military. The sad truth is that many doctors are not really expert in this field. Who knows when these people need treatment all of sudden?! Some Pre-existing conditions can be aggravated by military service alone. Who to say this is not one of them?
I say let's make it simple. If you need meds on daily basis, if the doctors say you have a chronic pre-existing condition, then don't serve.
If you are already serving and you need meds on daily basis, then don't cry if military process you out. Many people have been processed out for the exact same reasons.
If there were good enough to serve yesterday, they should still be good enough to serve today.
The fact that you and other continue to insist that this is the same as treating some kind of disease is baffling.
The first paragraph is naive to say the least.
My friend was good enough to serve yesterday, today, he is processed out because he is diagnosed with a chronic illness (Rheumatoid Arthritis)
If the transgender did not need to take meds yesterday, he needs to take meds today, everyday, or every other day, for at least three months, then yes, he should be processed out.
It is a simple concept.
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Uhm, not sure where you are getting your medical info, but yes, they do need the hormones once started or it will cause all kinds of physical, emotional, and psychological issues during the time period while their body readjusts. It has nothing to do with the capacity to take a pill, it has to do with what happens if the pill can't be given to them to take.
I am not missing the point. Military service is not about the right to a job.
I'm glad I'm not the only one here who notices the vast amount of misinformation that some posters will so casually throw out. This guy knows nothing about HRT. That much is obvious.
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