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Old 07-18-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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Im an independent and I feel that the Dems own the Unaffordable Care Act. They wrote, they passed it without any consideration for the GOP. It was a bad bill turned into a bad law by the Democrats. The Dems own that train wreck lock stock and barrel.
Um, there were 161 GOP amendments that were incorporated into the ACA. They own it just as much as the Dems do.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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People should have gotten a clue listening to Trump brag about how he could shoot and kill someone on 5th Ave and not lose a single supporter. If that didn't tell you how sick this guy is nothing else would.
That was actually one of his most truthful statements.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: SC
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At the next press conference - if they are brave enough to have any more. Someone should get up and ask. "Mr President, where is that 'beautiful,' 'terrific' and 'unbelievable' health care plan you swore you had; so far, all we see is the 'unbelievable.'"

They should keep asking this at every press conference until he admits he was FOS.

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Old 07-18-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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Um, there were 161 GOP amendments that were incorporated into the ACA. They own it just as much as the Dems do.
The Dems own the ACA but the Republicans have to admit they weren't interested in trying to fix the mistakes. After the two year mark, Democrats lost their position and Obama and Democratic politicians were stuck in a stale mate. Republicans refused to work with Democrats for six years. That's why it is funny now that Republicans are stomping their feet, pouting and whining about Democrats not working with them -- when the Republicans have the power.

Definitely the Dems own the ACA...and the Republicans own that they don't know how and can't fix it......



What does that say about who we vote into office?

And honestly, who gives a **** who owns it......I just want them to fix it.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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Time will march on, and whatever happens to healthcare in America... will be owned by the party & the executive in charge, whether they want to own it or not. Bummer for them.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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In all fairness, it was the GOP in both houses who said they had a great and wonderful healthcare plan to offer.

Trump was beguiled by them all , just like the rest of us.
Hey don't drag us into this
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Yep.

Democrats have been very outspoken today about working with Mitch McConnell on a bipartisan fix of Obamacare. But Trump and republicans would rather let it fail, which would screw over about ten million people.

I say again - Democrats have been saying all day today that Republicans and Democrats should work together to fix Obamacare so people don't lose their coverage. Mitch McConnell will probably refuse.

McConnell and Trump would rather see Americans get screwed over than work with Democrats to prevent it.
Republican politicians should be embarrassed.
To be fair, they're some Republicans who have publicly endorsed an bipartisan effort. Which is really the smartest thing. Otherwise, when the pendulum swings back, we'll back here again watching them snipe at each other and wasting everyone's time.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Silly people. He wants it to fail so he can finally...FINALLY unveil his "beautiful, everyone will be covered, paid for by the government" healthcare plan. You know, the one that's going to be wonderful. He's just been waiting for the right moment. Don't you guys know anything? Geeeesh!
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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It depends who the a Dems put up to run against him in 2020. Trump could win if Dems don't nominate someone who is ethical and pro-American.
Trump is doing a good job of being anti-American in his own right though.
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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He doesn't own the results of the ACA up to 2016, or even now. But going forward, anything that happens with the ACA will be owned by him. He has already taken a couple of significant actions against the ACA, and it's unlikely to have a sustainable future because of those actions.

If it fails, he'll certainly own that. I don't see how he couldn't.
Personally, if he hadn't done anything to alter it (including stopping others from trying to fix it) I wouldn't say it's on him. But yeah I agree that with all this tinkering, like taking the bite out of the mandate, it's becoming a Trumpamacare frankenstein. After some time I think it will be harder to buy the "it's the Dems' fault" argument so it's inevitable they'll have to come up with some sort of bipartisan solution.
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