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Old 08-03-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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That said, your hyperbolic statements do more harm then they do good. Even supportive people such as myself can take exception to such erroneous and deceptive claims. Keep it factual.
I admit that my statement was misinformed, and I admit that I then defended that statement (though in my defense I feel I was at least partly correct, and at the time I initially defended that statement I was very busy and very tired and not thinking properly.)

I will stop posting in this thread to avoid causing more of the issues you stated above.

I deeply apologize to the forum for my misinformed statement and my behavior afterwards,
Chad.
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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I'm a pretty open-minded person, and I believe each human should be allowed to pursue whatever lifestyle, activities, and beliefs desired, with whomever they want, and should enjoy equal treatment by the law and government.

But this is simply not enough in 2017. Tolerance, live and let live is not enough. We have to push nurturance. We have to make these value judgments whereby heteronormativity and cisnormativity for small children is deemed *wrong* and something to tear down and progress beyond. We're being pushed to adopt the post-modern idea that homosexuality and gender fluidity are every bit as normal, if not more normal and desireable, as compared to heterosexuality and the binary gender model, and that small children must be exposed to this.

I mean, if someone really has a diagnosed gender dysphoria issue, that's something they'll have to deal with, and we will treat that person with humanity. Why does it follow that we should actively try and open the possibility that *everyone* has some gender dysphoria, particularly in primary school or before? Why is the default position becoming to push these ideas down?

And I'm all for little girls playing with Lego and building things.

Remember, you can convince anyone of anything if you start early enough.

I'm glad that I experienced childhood in the time and culture that I did. I'm glad I never had offspring. I don't think I want to live too far into this future that's being assembled. By 2045 the world will scarcely resemble the world in which I was raised, where I thrived. It'll be time to get out.
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Old 08-04-2017, 01:54 AM
 
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I'm a pretty open-minded person, and I believe each human should be allowed to pursue whatever lifestyle, activities, and beliefs desired, with whomever they want, and should enjoy equal treatment by the law and government.

But this is simply not enough in 2017. Tolerance, live and let live is not enough. We have to push nurturance. We have to make these value judgments whereby heteronormativity and cisnormativity for small children is deemed *wrong* and something to tear down and progress beyond. We're being pushed to adopt the post-modern idea that homosexuality and gender fluidity are every bit as normal, if not more normal and desireable, as compared to heterosexuality and the binary gender model, and that small children must be exposed to this.

I mean, if someone really has a diagnosed gender dysphoria issue, that's something they'll have to deal with, and we will treat that person with humanity. Why does it follow that we should actively try and open the possibility that *everyone* has some gender dysphoria, particularly in primary school or before? Why is the default position becoming to push these ideas down?

And I'm all for little girls playing with Lego and building things.

Remember, you can convince anyone of anything if you start early enough.

I'm glad that I experienced childhood in the time and culture that I did. I'm glad I never had offspring. I don't think I want to live too far into this future that's being assembled. By 2045 the world will scarcely resemble the world in which I was raised, where I thrived. It'll be time to get out.
Exactly. If this were any other time how in the world would these "people" survive? What's extremely ironic about it all is that it's only DUE to hetersexual same-sex men that anyone else is even allowed to exist and have the biology and technology allowed to "survive"
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Old 08-04-2017, 02:00 AM
 
Location: California
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It's not surprising that preschools are mostly heteronormative since most kids and people are as well. It's the most common ("normal") way to be. No sense screwing that up. While people may have to accept the occasional uncommon person in their midst there is no reason at all to expect things are ever going to stop being "rife with" the most common ("normal") type of behaviors.
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Old 08-04-2017, 02:08 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Child abuse and you support it. Sickening.
and proud of it!
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