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Old 08-10-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
10 wrecks in 17 years....

It's a national crisis, get the nannies!!!!!! We need nannies!!!!!
If it was one of your kids or loved ones would it still be a non-issue for you?
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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Don't regular folks with sleep apnea, diagnosed or not, drive on the roads all day long too?
yep but they are not driving 18 wheelers that cause huge destruction and are on the roads for many hours a day...

the person with sleep apnea and driving for 8 hours is a lot more likely to crash and kill folk than the person who commutes in traffic for 30 mins to a couple of hours a day...


furthermore just because we have not dealt with commuters does not mean we should ignore other dangers.
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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Recording and transmitting are far different animals.

What's wrong with "us" people is that you seem to be quite comfortable with targeting a small segment of the driving population based on the weight of the vehicle. Like a car can't cause as horrific of an accident....
Transmit means that the data goes from the machine to a data card that slides into the machine. It's not being transmitted to some satellite orbiting around the Earth and then sent to the NSA for scrutiny.

That "small segment" is driving around with a possible GVW of 40 tons, with a height of 13'6, and a 53 foot trailer. Get it?

That's not exactly the same as falling asleep in your Ford Explorer.
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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No, Cars are cutting them off thinking that a semi can react as quickly as a car does to their action and some the semi's crash trying not to take out a few cars.
Ok, but that's another issue altogether.
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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So now the nanny state not only requires you be tested, but monitors you to see that you are using it?
Anyone who has a CPAP knows there is a memory card in it. People with newer units know their information is being transmitted daily via a cell tower. People with older units take the machine or the memory card to the doctor who pulls off the data. That data shows how long they wore it and how well it's working.

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Transmit means that the data goes from the machine to a data card that slides into the machine. It's not being transmitted to some satellite orbiting around the Earth and then sent to the NSA for scrutiny.

That "small segment" is driving around with a possible GVW of 40 tons, with a height of 13'6, and a 53 foot trailer. Get it?

That's not exactly the same as falling asleep in your Ford Explorer.
Incorrect. Technology has changed within the past few years. Not only does it save it the card, it transmits data to one's doctor. Insurance companies require copies of the data every three months for the first year.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Anyone who has a CPAP knows there is a memory card in it. People with newer units know their information is being transmitted daily via a cell tower. People with older units take the machine or the memory card to the doctor who pulls off the data. That data shows how long they wore it and how well it's working.



Incorrect. Technology has changed within the past few years. Not only does it save it the card, it transmits data to one's doctor. Insurance companies require copies of the data every three months for the first year.
Yep...that is a new development that I wasn't familiar with.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Ask anyone who's worked in transportation, or any 24 hour/7 day operation, and had to fight sleep because of poor scheduling, or just a mix-up due to a change of plans by an outsider; people whose working lives are confined to 9-to-5 Mon-Fri just don't understand what it's like for the rest of us.

On a number of occasions during my dispatching days, I saw drivers coming in at mid-day after a sound sleep, and then told that the load (and 8- to-10 hour haul) wouldn't be ready for another eight hours; or that someone who finished a daylight shift, and wouldn't get drowsy until nightfall, was expected to work an overnight shift that night.

In the days of "regulated" trucking, with "horses" (tractors) as company property and drivers "attached" to specific terminals. I saw a greater incidence of these abuses; under the new rules, with more owner-operators and better-monitoring of electronic logs, the driver has a better chance of spending the night at a truck plaza an hour or two away from his anticipated, usually-morning delivery.

I can't offer an easy answer, and while they're rare, and conditions have improved overall, sometimes these incidences can have disastrous consequences.
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:52 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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A CPAP machine is useless if it's not actually recording the data. The data is for your physician. ..............
That's wrong. In only reports data for insurance purposes to make sure you are using it. After 60 days or so it stops reporting.

Mine stopped recording years ago; I go in to the pulmonologist once a year. He doesn't know whether I am using it or not.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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uhm sleep apnea is not a big deal... many in the military even have it

now on the other hand, if you want to talk about Narcolepsy, then you might have a point
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