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Old 08-14-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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this statement could not be more wrong.

one of my daughters voted for tRump and she is married to a black man. he also voted for tRump.

I am a "leftist".

tRump?
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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Now try "white nationalist".
The definition of a Nationalist per the dictionary is
"a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government"

The definition of Nationalism is
" loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups"

It has nothing to do with race or hatred. Abraham Lincoln, Roosevelt are good examples of nationalists, Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives. The American generation that fought WWII were nationalists. It's about loving your country and putting your country first.

The news media is now making up their own definition and making it the same as "supremacist" by putting the word white in front of it and making it sound evil. The two words are very different with different meanings. The majority of Americans are nationalists. They are white, black, Asian and every other race and religion.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The definition of a Nationalist per the dictionary is




It has nothing to do with race or hatred.
You my friend have been duped by right wing liars. White nationalist its in the name they want a white ethnostate sounds pretty racist to me.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The definition of Nationalism is
" loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups"

It has nothing to do with race or hatred.
The OP asked for the definition of white nationalism, not nationalism. These are 2 very different things.

White nationalists want a separate racial homeland for themselves. They don't want non-whites in their midst. It's very much the same as black nationalists.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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You my friend have been duped by right wing liars. White nationalist its in the name they want a white ethnostate sounds pretty racist to me.
No, you my friend have been duped by the media. There is nothing in nationalism that wants a white ethnostate. There is nothing racist about being a nationalist. Nationalists are all races. You are made to believe that supremacist and nationalist are the same thing. Look the words up in the Webster dictionary and you'll see they are very different.
You're saying the dictionary is lying. I think not.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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A toxic mixture of hatred, ignorance, fear and anger.
Gee, that could be said about BLM supporters. Heck, you just described many Unions.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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No, you my friend have been duped by the media. There is nothing in nationalism that wants a white ethnostate. There is nothing racist about being a nationalist. Nationalists are all races. You are made to believe that supremacist and nationalist are the same thing. Look the words up in the Webster dictionary and you'll see they are very different.
You're saying the dictionary is lying. I think not.
Yes nationalists can be any race. White nationalist can only be white you are obfuscating the truth by backpedaling I don't need to listen to the media to know that white nationalists are morons who want racial segregation.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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The OP asked for the definition of white nationalism, not nationalism. These are 2 very different things.

White nationalists want a separate racial homeland for themselves. They don't want non-whites in their midst.
Those are supremacists, not nationalists. They are not the same and no amount of propaganda can change that.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Gee, that could be said about BLM supporters. Heck, you just described many Unions.
That's a good point. Both use intimidation, and violence to advance their cause, and achieve their goals.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Those are supremacists, not nationalists. They are not the same and no amount of propaganda can change that.
White supremacists have hijacked the term white nationalist to appear more mainstream. Thankfully most normal people aren't fooled by that gimmick.
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