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Old 08-31-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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If you're a principled leftist, doesn't it bother you just a little bit that your side has suddenly swooned for the Deep State.......and defends it to the death?? I mean, your side has warned about the Deep State, and fought it tooth and nail, for over fifty years. Now, all of a sudden, you're BFFs.

(Preemptive strikes: "No we don't love it!"
"We were NEVER wary of it!"
"We're still opposed to it!"
etc. etc. etc.)


I mean, is there any one on the left who can think back a few years, and feels a bit discomfited by hopping into bed with people you used to consider the Enemy??
What's the deep state? Is this the new trendy phrase this month?
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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If you're a principled leftist, doesn't it bother you just a little bit that your side has suddenly swooned for the Deep State.......and defends it to the death?? I mean, your side has warned about the Deep State, and fought it tooth and nail, for over fifty years. Now, all of a sudden, you're BFFs.

(Preemptive strikes: "No we don't love it!"
"We were NEVER wary of it!"
"We're still opposed to it!"
etc. etc. etc.)


I mean, is there any one on the left who can think back a few years, and feels a bit discomfited by hopping into bed with people you used to consider the Enemy??
If you are going to start a topic on the "Deep State" perhaps you could elaborate what the deep state is and how relates to Democrats.It may come as a surprise to you but we dont all listen to Rush Limbaugh.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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If you're a principled leftist, doesn't it bother you just a little bit that your side has suddenly swooned for the Deep State.......and defends it to the death?? I mean, your side has warned about the Deep State, and fought it tooth and nail, for over fifty years. Now, all of a sudden, you're BFFs.

(Preemptive strikes: "No we don't love it!"
"We were NEVER wary of it!"
"We're still opposed to it!"
etc. etc. etc.)


I mean, is there any one on the left who can think back a few years, and feels a bit discomfited by hopping into bed with people you used to consider the Enemy??
In reality, the Deep state would be synonymous with the mammoth bureaucratic structure of socialist power structures. Leftists feel safer in more controlled environments with an authoritarian regime making up for the absence of God in their lives. Endless red tape and regulations keeps one's mind busy enough to avoid internal spiritual struggles which might lead many a Leftist astray and break the group lockstep formation.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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Can you please describe what, exactly, a leftist is?

I keep seeing that term bantied about here, but I've been around for 60 years and have never met anyone who calls themselves a "leftist" so I am honestly wondering what you mean by this term.

Please explain.
On C-D it's anyone who doesn't worship at the alter of Donald Trump. Even stalwart Conservatives and lifelong Republicans who are capable of seeing that the emperor has no clothes are now called "leftists" here.

If that's you, welcome to the club! This is where you want to be when history is written.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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If you're a leftist
Maineguy8888, can you please clarify what, exactly, a leftist is?

I keep seeing that term bantied about here, but I've been around for 60 years and have never met anyone who calls themselves a "leftist" so I am honestly wondering what you mean by this term.

Please explain.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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what is the deep state?
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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I mean, is there any one on the left who can think back a few years, and feels a bit discomfited by hopping into bed with people you used to consider the Enemy??
This lifetime lefist doesn't know what a Deep State is, but if I had to guess it's a simple slogan from the Right - the Right being that entity that wants to raise the debt ceiling and increase military spending.

Do I have it somewhat Right? Is the "Deep State" yet another simplistic construct for the "uneducated" who Trump loves.....who need slogans which are 4 words or less?
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Can you please clarify what, exactly, a leftist is?

I keep seeing that term bantied about here, but I've been around for 60 years and have never met anyone who calls themselves a "leftist" so I am honestly wondering what you mean by this term.

Please explain.
I think it depends on your perspective. To the Trump supporters on this site, or the alt-right in general, it includes not only the legitimate left, but what used to be the center, so even mainstream conservative Republicans are too leftist by their definition.

If you so right-wing that you're in danger of falling off the stage, the guy center stage is pretty far left.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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I think it depends on your perspective.
Thanks for your reply, but I'd really like to hear Maineguy888's definition of what a leftist is, since he's the one who started a thread using the term.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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I never heard of the Deep State until a year or two ago. I still haven't heard a very good description of what it is supposed to be.
CIA? Military intelligence outfits? FBI?
(For starters.........)
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