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Where did you hear that only 30% of the country is liberal?
I'm counting democrats as the liberals since the party is now way left.
The country is approximately divided politically as 30%D, 30%R, 30%I and 10% other (libertarian, Green Party, socialist, etc.).
But I've read that Independents are at 40% recently. It's hard to get accuracy on these numbers, but it's close.
The important take away is that since the early 90s, liberalism has steadily been increasing, while moderates have been in slight decline, and conservative remained mostly unchanged.
I think Gallup is good, and I trust these results BUT these results may not be as helpful as we think.
First of all, these words don't mean the same thing to everyone. Now, they of course do mean something; words have meaning. But political words usually get abused. Many think the term liberal means "more government." That's not what it means. I think this point may carry weight since the survey shows that there are "liberal Republicans." Odds are, those liberal Republicans have a slightly different understanding of what liberal means than a Reagan conservative type would.
Speaking of Reagan, Gallup started tracking this shortly after the Reagan era ended. Reagan, due to some policy failure from Democrats prior to his election, managed to redefine what the terms liberal and conservative mean, and move the political center to the right. This might effect how people self identify, moderates in particular. The center appears to be moving (very slowly) back to the center, and many seem to think this means communism is moving in on us... which is beyond crazy.
Point being, I think these results tell us how people self identify, but it doesn't necessarily provide much insight into the ideological views of the average American.
I'm counting democrats as the liberals since the party is now way left.
The country is approximately divided politically as 30%D, 30%R, 30%I and 10% other (libertarian, Green Party, socialist, etc.).
But I've read that Independents are at 40% recently. It's hard to get accuracy on these numbers, but it's close.
I'm not so sure I agree that liberalism is "way left."
Scratch that, I know for a fact that I disagree. In fact, I'd argue that this is decidedly untrue.
Look at how the UK or Canada view their political parties. Their left wing party is usually a form of social democrats. In the UK, it's the Labour Party and in Canada, I think they're called the New Democrats. Both countries have a liberal party then a conservative party. The liberal parties are generally considered very centrist, with candidates who could be either center left or center right, while conservative parties tend to be center right and social democratic parties center left.
It's all in the center though. Same with their libertarian parties and green parties. In fact, at least in Canada, green parties are usually considered very centrist.
I think America only having two parties (then Reagan moving the political center to the right) has done a lot of harm to how we understand politics to work.
We are actually better investors than that.
No one really reads newspapers today.
But people to read online version of newspapers.
The NYT, for example, has seen an increase in digital subscriptions, despite claims for certain people that they are "failing."
And even then, despite the meme that print is dead, people do still like printed things. I for one am actually a big fan of printed media. No doubt, most of it is trash, and newspapers are a little different, but good printed work deserves credit for its' quality.
But Americans seem to not give a damn about value or quality.
As far as I know every single newspaper in the US has been bought by people who are left wing and that influences public opinion alot. Sites like breitbart are not "mainstream". Even fox news (which is not a newspaper) is more of a controlled opposition news source by the left, they never wanted trump to win for example. Why doesn't some wealthy alt-right guy like robert mercer buy a newspaper?
I love this question. As far as I can tell, the Alt-RIght, which revels in ignorance, doesn't read.
I love this question. As far as I can tell, the Alt-RIght, which revels in ignorance, doesn't read.
You'd think they'd appreciate the symbolism and the opportunity to influence the debate. And to report crime and scandal stories in a way that would allow them to spread their bigotry.
As far as I know every single newspaper in the US has been bought by people who are left wing and that influences public opinion alot. Sites like breitbart are not "mainstream". Even fox news (which is not a newspaper) is more of a controlled opposition news source by the left, they never wanted trump to win for example. Why doesn't some wealthy alt-right guy like robert mercer buy a newspaper?
If you consider Fox to be controlled by the left, then you must be an extreme alt right member of Cult 45. What you really want is for Breitbart and InfoWars, etc. to become magically "mainstream." If Cult members bought WaPo - for example - and made it into their mouthpiece, it would automatically become as marginalized as Breitbart is. 65% of the nation has no use for Trump. Get over it.
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