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Old 09-02-2017, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
Oh, yeah... the same old fairy tales...
Lybia was suffering, Iraq was suffering, Syria is suffering... until USA came in. Right?
Now NK is suffering through the hands of a dictator.
You know what? Just mind your own business. The US is not the savior of the world.
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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Oh, yeah... the same old fairy tales...
Lybia was suffering, Iraq was suffering, Syria is suffering... until USA came in. Right?
Now NK is suffering through the hands of a dictator.
You know what? Just mind your own business. The US is not the savior of the world.
Other goals...Don't mix things up
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Other goals...Don't mix things up
The goal is the same, plausible pretexts to start a war are different.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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I think by now everyone is tired of Kim Jong-un and his silly threats. Why don't we just take him out , give North Korea to South Korea. Then get rid of Raul Castro and Maduro.
and what reason would you give to go to war with north korea? they threatened us? pffft. if that were a reason to go to war, then we should have gone to war with the old soviet union many times since 1948.

or are you suggesting we send a wet work team in to eliminate the leaders of the countries you suggest? that would actually be illegal to do, since kennedy signed a law making it such.

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Why do you think that we are entitled to take someone out, to destroy a country for our need and get rid of the leaders of another country? Are we the standard of the human morality and the world' judge? Are we the Vicar of God on earth? Or, we are just a bunch of ignorant and arrogant egoistic people that assume the whole world must serve us and our interests, otherwise they are bad guys?
If the the US wouldn't have bullied NK with military drills nearby them, NK wouldn't have threatened to launch their missiles. Just leave NK alone and the current crisis will disappear itself.
the US has been playing war games with south korea for many decades. just lke during the cold war the US was playing war games with west germany and other allies near the iron curtain. you can bet that north korea also plays their war games near the south korean border, so then what, should we threaten to destroy north korea because of that?

and by the way we DID try to appease north korea, remember the obama administration? and the bush43 administration? they were always making deals with north korea so they would shut up and go away, but they never did. oh they would shut up for a couple of minutes, but then always came back crying even louder than before. so the last two administrations again tried to appease them, but like a petulant child, kim screamed even louder because it always worked in the past.
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Old 09-03-2017, 03:09 AM
 
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wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
And your solution is to take out their leader? how would you accomplish that without enormous loss of life.
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Old 09-03-2017, 03:29 AM
 
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How is it worse if it will make things better. Or you gonna say that people in those places are happy. Cuba might be an exception, but NK and Venezuela people are desperate
My backyard is clean
Whether or not people are happy in those places is none of our concern.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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And you wonder why we oppose the trumpetets- alt right- gestapo- hitler thinking? some of us remember history and if it squeals like a pig--
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
Freedom require the ability to choose; it requires the liberation of the mind and body.

We cannot free the people of North Korea. Not only is it not our place, it wouldn't truly be freedom. We'd be deciding their fate on their behalf; this is not freedom.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:17 AM
 
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wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
The people themselves have to want to be free its not enough that we want them to be free.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
I seem to recall this being the argument to invade Iraq. How did that turn out?
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