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Old 09-16-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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DACA is absolute suicide for the republican party. Once texas goes blue, the nation is pretty much over. We may already be living in post america, we are really discussing giving citizenship to people who broke the law and republicans are actually adding ,at least, 5 million new democrat voters and committing political suicide.

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Old 09-16-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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DACA is absolute suicide for the republican party. Once texas goes blue, the nation is pretty much over. We may already be living in post america, we are really discussing giving citizenship to people who broke the law and republicans are actually adding ,at least, 5 million new democrat voters and committing political suicide.

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From what I can see, all the republicans are nothing but republicans in the name only! They are just as liberal as the democrats
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:36 PM
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DACA is absolute suicide for the republican party. Once texas goes blue, the nation is pretty much over. We may already be living in post america, we are really discussing giving citizenship to people who broke the law and republicans are actually adding ,at least, 5 million new democrat voters and committing political suicide.

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Well, technically they had no say in the matter. They're here through no choice of their own. Sure they could leave, but why would or should they? This is the only place they've ever known.

If your argument is really going to come down to "but they'll vote democrat!" then you've really got nothing.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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Well, technically they had no say in the matter. They're here through no choice of their own. Sure they could leave, but why would or should they? This is the only place they've ever known.

If your argument is really going to come down to "but they'll vote democrat!" then you've really got nothing.
So?
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Well, technically they had no say in the matter. They're here through no choice of their own. Sure they could leave, but why would or should they? This is the only place they've ever known.

If your argument is really going to come down to "but they'll vote democrat!" then you've really got nothing.
Just out of curiosity, what is your argument that illegals should be allowed to stay?
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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From what I can see, all the republicans are nothing but republicans in the name only! They are just as liberal as the democrats
Pretty much. Its why a thrid party is now basically the last chance we have

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Well, technically they had no say in the matter. They're here through no choice of their own. Sure they could leave, but why would or should they? This is the only place they've ever known.

If your argument is really going to come down to "but they'll vote democrat!" then you've really got nothing.
Other than we are entering a post america where our politics will look more like Puerto rico, Illinois, Detroit, Newark, California , New mexico, Camden, Baltimore, Flint, St louis etc and one party control . The republicans are dead nationally if they allow amnesty, they have been talking about gaining minority votes for 30 years and they never do gain anything close to a majority or in case of black votes barely 10%

daca/amnesty = end of the republican party and single party third world future
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:23 PM
 
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.
Visas and they have to travel back and forward to keep their I-94 status just like we had too. I agree to that and these visas will stay for twenty years unless they commit a crime. No problem with that.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.
Sounds like the status they have...a band aid.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:49 PM
 
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.

Nope, nope and nope!
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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No. They can return with the same illegal aliens that brought them here keeping their families together which many have expressed is an issue.

Their children can be born in their country, the one to which they have allegiance.

No reason to create a special class of individuals when the law already has a remedy for the "situation", apprehend, detain and deport. They came here with their illegal alien parents who did not know the culture or the language and they can all go back and pick up where they left off.

If we reward these illegal aliens, it will NEVER end.

No reason to compromise. Why have laws if when they are broken we are going to "compromise" to favor the criminals?


These kids broke no laws though. Should we all be punished for our parents crimes. If your parent committed a crime do you feel you should somehow pay for it? That is the question.
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