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In America we have the right to free speech, to assemble and to make horses asses of ourselves if we so desire. It would be the end of our liberties if we allow one group of thugs, whether on the right or the left, to define what free speech is allowed. There should never be any restraints on free speech!
One thing. What speeches does ANTIFA make? They hide behind masks and don't say anything. All they are doing is going somewhere to stop another groups ability to speak and in planned and preemptive manner violently attacking them.
What they are doing is illegal and not protected:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ech_exceptions
The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action".
The problem with ANTIFA is not what they are saying but that they are clearly advocating violence.
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Unless you're anti-free speech, everybody should support ANTIFA's right to protest. The few dozen idiot thugs should be arrested and charged with crimes, but the majority of peaceful ANTIFA folks are exercising their rights.
Much like the KKK & White Nationalists. I fully support their right to protest and march. The few dozen violent ones (to include murderers who run over innocent people) should be charged and prosecuted.
All peaceful protesters or demonstrators should be free to let their voices be heard, so long as they are peaceful. This is something we can probably all agree on.
Antifa is no different than the KKK, BLM, most racial supremacist organizations...or ultimately much of radical Islam. Find a group of ignorant failures. Involve them in a little club that they feel like they are a part of and relate to. Give them a common enemy and foster hate. Tell them that enemy is evil, that the enemy the cause of their failures. That "defeating" the enemy will improve their lot...without any actual effort on their part. And then turn them loose to commit violent acts in the name of their "cause". Doesn't matter if the cause is "social justice", racial supremacy or some perverted "religion" or political system. Those that are ignorant and hate filled will commit violence in the name of their cause and feel morally superior for doing so. Until that mindset is changed, I don't see an end in sight.
Unless you're anti-free speech, everybody should support ANTIFA's right to protest. The few dozen idiot thugs should be arrested and charged with crimes, but the majority of peaceful ANTIFA folks are exercising their rights.
Much like the KKK & White Nationalists. I fully support their right to protest and march. The few dozen violent ones (to include murderers who run over innocent people) should be charged and prosecuted.
All peaceful protesters or demonstrators should be free to let their voices be heard, so long as they are peaceful. This is something we can probably all agree on.
ANTIFA does not do peaceful demonstrations. Show me examples of this since you claim they do. There is no majority of peaceful ANTIFA folks. Their whole purpose for existing is to use intimidation and violence towards right wing groups they oppose. I don't like these right wing groups either but that does not excuse their actions.
The people from the groups that loosely tied together and are known as ANTIFA do not make speeches or organize events. They simply show up at events of other groups they do not like and disrupt them. They have attacked reporters and innocent bystanders. In many cases use violence. Many of them believe in anarchy and want democracy and capitalism in America to end.
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I don't believe in Antifa's politics but no group should be forbidden in the United States. Antifa, BLM, ISIS, Nazis and whoever else wants to have their little clubs should and are allowed to by the constitution of the United States. If anyone in any group commits crimes they should be punished. But trying to weed out people based on their personal beliefs never ends well for any society
It has come out that Hillary Clinton has been giving them money left over from her campaign.
Giving it to whom?
There's no central organization. Or any local organizations either. In fact, there's no organization at all past what it takes to put a flash mob together. Most of them only know one or two others if they show up.
No leadership at all. There's no office or anything in the movement. It's all just word of mouth. They show up or stay home, their choice, no big deal either way. And none of them use their own names; like the net, they all have antifa names they know each other by only.
So who is she giving the money to?
Since I know nothing about this, I'm only asking a question. From what I learned, it would be mighty hard to give antifa any money at all. The all pay their own dime, and nothing they do costs them very much.
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