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Old 09-20-2017, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Aren't you an immigrant?
Yes, so I have first hand experience with this issue.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:07 PM
 
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Yes, so I have first hand experience with this issue.
So a privilege that you enjoy you want to deny to others.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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I am of the opinion that many of the social problems we have today and the politically driven agendas are because of our true lack of a national identity. The U.S. has always welcomed all from the around the world to lawfully enter this nation and become Americans. However, now a days many cry foul when the U.S doesn't seem to meet the individuals standard and adapt to their culture, either foreign or domestic. The U.S. is too....
  • Too white
  • Too Christian
  • Too conservative
  • Too much negative history
  • Too industrious/Capitalist
  • Too strict on immigration
  • Too militarized

Today, what's our united cause?
Two too's.


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As controversial as this might sound, until the last 100-150 years or so, most nations (including the U.S) had an identity. Older nations had hundreds if not thousands of years to establish "a people". People that for the most part thought alike, worshipped alike, lived alike, and yes...looked alike.
It doesn't sound controversial. It just sounds wrong. Hawaiians were never like New Yorkers. New Mexicans were never like Alaskans, etc...
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Japan
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So a privilege that you enjoy you want to deny to others.
I think nations should implement whatever immigration policies their citizens believe are in their best interests. I am happy to follow Japan's immigration laws. Others who want to live in the U.S. should follow American laws.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Japan
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So a privilege that you enjoy you want to deny to others.
And to answer your question more directly, yes, as there are billions more people in the world than America needs, there are billions of people that I, as an American citizen, want to see denied the privilege of immigrating.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by NorthTexasGuy View Post
I am of the opinion that many of the social problems we have today and the politically driven agendas are because of our true lack of a national identity. The U.S. has always welcomed all from the around the world to lawfully enter this nation and become Americans. However, now a days many cry foul when the U.S doesn't seem to meet the individuals standard and adapt to their culture, either foreign or domestic. The U.S. is too....
  • Too white
  • Too Christian
  • Too conservative
  • Too much negative history
  • Too industrious/Capitalist
  • Too strict on immigration
  • Too militarized
As controversial as this might sound, until the last 100-150 years or so, most nations (including the U.S) had an identity. Older nations had hundreds if not thousands of years to establish "a people". People that for the most part thought alike, worshipped alike, lived alike, and yes...looked alike. They created an organized disciplined society. If there was need for a revolution, there would be a united cause against the government.


Today, what's our united cause? White supremacy, BLM, police brutality, bathroom gender rights, confederate statues, illegal immigration, Capitalism?


What American culture will we ultimately become??
You need to travel more, and read more. This country has never been homogeneous.
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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Until the nonwhites starting showing up... Than to many white folks immigration became a problem..

Nope, assimilation has been the problem not race nor skin color.
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Of course.

Only individuals can own property.
So a group of people cannot own land? Like a family?
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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The main problem in the USA isn't immigrants not assimilating it's multi generational Americans de-assimilating from mainstream culture and otherwise engaging in self destructive behavior that causes great cost to their society. I define American as being hard working, valuing freedom, understanding personal responsibility, and having self discipline. The most American people I've met are often first generation immigrants who understand how great our system is. My work place is probably 25% immigrant (Vietnamese, Chinese, Hispanic, one Bosnian) and they work circles around most "real American' workers.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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Immigration was/is always a problem to some degree. Generally, the more dissimilar immigrants are, the bigger the problems.
This is rich, coming from an alt-right white guy with white nationalist leanings, married to an Asian woman and living in an Asian country. Are you joking? Seriously? Do you not see the irony in your post? 外人
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