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well, if so, they are oppressed by other white people. Minorities have nothing to do with it.
I wouldn't say "nothing" to do with it but very little. Definitely a lot less than is being portrayed in the media.
You're right there.
White liberals have a set narrative of winners and losers and which group belongs where for all situations. Then they move those pieces around depending on the situation like pawns on a chess board.
If that's the case then whites and Asians (especially males of those groups) are oppressed.
And it's the end of the thread. Seriously. If that's what you want to go by there's no wiggle room out of it.
So like they say on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? is that your final answer?
Yup...final answer.
Oh..and no...I don't believe that there is any institutional bias against White men..can't speak to the asian experence.
I've just not experienced it..ever. Not in the workplace..not in the classroom...not in society.
I don't think affirmative action is discrimination. Nor do I feel hiring quotas to be discrimination. Why? Because earmarking a few places for minorities--when the historic percentage was 100%...does not really rob anyone of anything.
Now, if 70% of class size was earmarked for minorities..that would be different..but we all know that not to be true.
More doctors of color..just means more doctors..to me. Same for all the other professions.
So, I've not lost anything. Nor have my children...all of whom are college grads..except 1..and he could buy and sell us all.
Oh..and no...I don't believe that there is any institutional bias against White men..can't speak to the asian experence.
I've just not experienced it..ever. Not in the workplace..not in the classroom...not in society.
I don't think affirmative action is discrimination. Nor do I feel hiring quotas to be discrimination. Why? Because earmarking a few places for minorities--when the historic percentage was 100%...does not really rob anyone of anything.
Now, if 70% of class size was earmarked for minorities..that would be different..but we all know that not to be true.
More doctors of color..just means more doctors..to me. Same for all the other professions.
So, I've not lost anything. Nor have my children...all of whom are college grads..except 1..and he could buy and sell us all.
Fair enough.
AA is discrimination at the workplace and in education imo. We will have to agree to disagree.
There's been a number of posts on here asking women if we feel oppressed, if women can be white supremacists, etc. I have also noticed threads about white males being discriminated against or "oppressed." Do you agree that they are or do you think they are not?
You are mixing and matching far too many issues.
That said, whites are discriminated against when they are more qualified and /or have better scores on tests, yet the job, promotion, or entry into college is given to a minority under the guise of programs like affirmative action, consent decrees, and other quota based hiring schemes.
Yes I know quotas were ruled unconstitutional by the scotus, but a quota by another names seems fine with liberals in certain towns.
So feeling oppressed vs. actually being oppressed are two very different things. The same with "feeling" discriminated against, vs. it actually happening. I as a white male have been discriminated against, based on both my race and my gender. I don't like it, and have spoken out against it. However, I have also moved on and didn't allow it to define my future.
I might have been better off had I received certain jobs/promotions than I am now, but then again I might not. Who really knows how one thing will connect to another. I do know that had I not been in the position I was when I decided to strike out on my own and start my own businesses, I wouldn't be where I am today. Better or worse, I have persevered.
The same is true of minorities and or women who feel they were discriminated against, and especially those who really were. If you wallow in it, it only hurts you and those who discriminated against you win. However for those who would not allow it to define their future, they also have success stories and are stronger people as a result.
The thing that is so great about this country is it allows the universal law of truth to eventually emerge.This country has some things like slavery which in this day and age is proven to be wrong on every level. but the beauty is this country corrects these wrongs. It may not be easy and may even take a few generations in some cases but freedom provides the masses with the ability to bring forth universal truth between right and wrong.
I wouldn't say "nothing" to do with it but very little. Definitely a lot less than is being portrayed in the media.
You're right there.
White liberals have a set narrative of winners and losers and which group belongs where for all situations. Then they move those pieces around depending on the situation like pawns on a chess board.
well, they can always blame my ancestors for everything. We had no excuses.
Oh..and no...I don't believe that there is any institutional bias against White men..can't speak to the asian experence.
I've just not experienced it..ever. Not in the workplace..not in the classroom...not in society.
I don't think affirmative action is discrimination. Nor do I feel hiring quotas to be discrimination. Why? Because earmarking a few places for minorities--when the historic percentage was 100%...does not really rob anyone of anything.
Now, if 70% of class size was earmarked for minorities..that would be different..but we all know that not to be true.
More doctors of color..just means more doctors..to me. Same for all the other professions.
So, I've not lost anything. Nor have my children...all of whom are college grads..except 1..and he could buy and sell us all.
I think suggested hiring quotas are great, but a hiring quota leads to having to hire unqualified people simply because you have to fill a position with a minority, in cases where no qualified person expressed an interest in the job.
I have no problem with slots being set aside for jobs and for students - I think it's wrong, unnecessary, and discrimination to lower standards for those students and employees.
I think suggested hiring quotas are great, but a hiring quota leads to having to hire unqualified people simply because you have to fill a position with a minority, in cases where no qualified person expressed an interest in the job.
I have no problem with slots being set aside for jobs and for students - I think it's wrong, unnecessary, and discrimination to lower standards for those students.
I agree..especially with the bolded.
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