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View Poll Results: Were Trump's Tweets Attacking Puerto Rico Justified?
YES. San Juan Mayor Carmen Cruz's comments against Trump were exaggerated and she deserved a harsh reply. 105 36.71%
NO. Trump's tweets were heartless and mean, given that many PR residents have no water, food, gas, cell phone service, and no medical supplies. 181 63.29%
Voters: 286. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-01-2017, 05:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
this is exactly the type of things the Russians are doing to bring down our democracy. just pushing out a bunch of lies that appeal to the hatred of people who just accept the lies as truth without verifying anything.

trucker strike - lie
mayor refuses to attend fema meetings - lie

etc.
Why is it a "lie"? Because you don't like it?

CNN had FEMA Director on air and he said she has not attended ANY meetings - This stuff is all on video.

Neighboring mayor praises Trump, says San Juan mayor playing 'politics,' AWOL at meetings |Washington Examiner - 9/30/17

The mayor of a Puerto Rican city that sits next to San Juan praised the administration's help Saturday night, and chided the "politics" of San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, who has been criticizing President Trump.

In an interview with Secrets, Guaynabo Mayor Angel Perez Otero said that in several meetings with FEMA and U.S. military officials about the recovery effort, Yulin Cruz has been absent. "I've seen other mayors participating. She's not," said Perez Otero.

Despite days of praise for the government's effort from Puerto Rico's governor, Yulin Cruz has become the new face of the island in the media with her sharp criticism of the administration's efforts.

Asked if he has seen similar shortfalls and non-communication from the administration, Perez Otero said "that's not been my experience." He added, "There is a lot of politics in Puerto Rico."

Perez Otero added that the San Juan mayor "is my friend." His municipality sits just west of San Juan. Together, they make up most of the San Juan metropolitan area.

Perez Otero said that he has been in constant contact with military, FEMA and White House officials and has been promised that "they won't leave until Puerto Rico is good."

 
Old 10-01-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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Wow, some mean spirited hateful people on this thread. No conscience, no soul, no compassion.
Sociopaths vote for other sociopaths. Like birds of a feather.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:02 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Spare me your holier than thou comments. You live in alternate reality. I hope one day you come back to Earth.
Alternate reality? Really? I see country where, for the first time in our history, people dissatisfied with an election because their candidate didn't win, are actually rioting in the streets like in some third world country. Others, equally filled with hatred, are intent on removing a duly elected president form office by any means, simply on the basis they don't like him, or his style, and they don't care what damage it does to the country and our Republic. They organize an entire movement, including Websites, whose purpose it is to "resist" everything, making false claims he is a "white supremacist," Nazi, supports the KKK, and other lies, all with one purpose, to force his removal from office.

That is the reality. Even Barack Obama, whom I dislike intensely because of his anti-American policies and disrespect for our Constitution and our Republic, didn't receive this kind of intense hatred and false accusations leveled against him, even though he deserved it, because of his openly expressed hatred for this country and what we stand for. He was a disgrace and an embarrassment, and he went around the world apologizing for America! America need not apologize to anyone.

Trump won because he is one of us. He speaks like we the people do, not with carefully crafted rhetoric and terms designed to deceive and disguise his real intent like Obama and Hillary Clinton. "Fundamental transformation" was code for "making America a Marxist-socialist, European style "progressive" country with a government of unlimited power over individuals and corporations, robbing us of our rights and Liberty.

Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan means exactly what it says. We will be for America first, and we will put the American people first. He is intent on getting rid of government over reach into the lives of individuals as well as businesses. He believes in the America our Founders and Framers gave us, and believes that America can and must live again, if we are to remain a free people.

Hillary Clinton is a Marxist-socialist. I don't want to live in the country she envisions ...I don't want to be a slave to government. I don't want to live in a European style socialist country.

We are a Constitutional Republic. Our Federal government was established by the States, and delegated limited and defined powers. It's time to take back control, and that is what Donald Trump represents.

That is the reality, pal. If you don't like that, you're welcome to leave and move to Europe. It might be more to your liking.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:08 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The Jones Act limits shipping between coasts to U.S. flagged vessels. However, in the wake of brutal storms, the government has occasionally issued temporary waivers to allow the use of cheaper, tax free or more readily available foreign-flagged ships.

The Department of Homeland Security, which waived the act after hurricanes Harvey and Irma, did not agree an exemption would help this time.

Homeland Security issued the waiver in mainland USA after Harvey & Irma so that fuel products could be moved to US Cities that needed the fuel ...... remember how gas prices spiked when Major Petroleum States were hit by the Hurricanes? It had nothing to do with getting fuel TO the disaster areas.
this is all very nice but I still have not received an apology. I was right and chuck was wrong. he said he would apologize if he was wrong. not a man of his word, I see.

whether it was warranted or not to waive the Act, the issue was it was waived for texas and florida. chuck didn't believe me and said he would apologize if he was wrong.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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I really feel this thread is being responded to by 12 yr olds who do know anything. Hears no news- sees no videos and have no intelligent answers. But to my 8 yr old. And trumpettes -This is how it must work Containers on docks full of supplies, need big trucks , big trucks need lots of gas, and trained drivers . As the roads are impassible they need heavy caterpillar equipment to fix the roads and they need armed guards to protect the driver and foods so desierate people do to try to take everthing on the truck. Ahh the 8 yr old got it, but tell me, still looking to see who was mean to mrT ???
Well at least your 8 year old figured it and got you to understand....but as you can see 65+ pages, including you, cannot figure out what the right has been saying.....LOGISTICS......

And BTW, what do you say now that the mayor has not been to any FEMA meetings (if its true)?
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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Lot of military people are working hard in recovery effort. Meanwhile, rest of us are too busy fighting over national anthem.
Don't seem that the mayor cares to know whats going on.....
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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this is all very nice but I still have not received an apology. I was right and chuck was wrong. he said he would apologize if he was wrong. not a man of his word, I see.

whether it was warranted or not to waive the Act, the issue was it was waived for texas and florida. chuck didn't believe me and said he would apologize if he was wrong.
Sorry I have a life and I don't live on this web page...nor on a computer and I damn sure was not going to go through all these pages to figure out that you posted something.




I apologize, I did not know that they waived it for FL and TX....first I heard about that was here on this board.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If Trump won't help PR, why does he insist on making things worse by his childish tweets.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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Trump sent 18 tweets on Puerto Rico on Saturday - CNNPolitics

"What Trump is doing -- in his attacks on Yulin Cruz and the media -- is trying to divide the country as a way to deflect blame for his administration's performance."

"For Trump, the lone goal is winning at all costs. If that means attacking the mayor of San Juan even as Puerto Rico faces a historic recovery challenge, so be it. If it means blaming Puerto Rico's debt and infrastructure issues even as people are desperately searching for their loved ones, well, that's just how it goes. "

The great divider continues to tear this nation apart.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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That is not the point. Why on earth would you take the time and resources to do it in the middle of this devastation except for political purposes while you are on TV? She can say the words just as easily as she did.
It made an impact, didn't it?

Silkscreening a shirt takes like 30 minutes.

Yes, she did it for political purposes. SO WHAT?
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