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View Poll Results: Were Trump's Tweets Attacking Puerto Rico Justified?
YES. San Juan Mayor Carmen Cruz's comments against Trump were exaggerated and she deserved a harsh reply. 105 36.71%
NO. Trump's tweets were heartless and mean, given that many PR residents have no water, food, gas, cell phone service, and no medical supplies. 181 63.29%
Voters: 286. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-30-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Not the Clinton's. They spent millions of charity money that was given to Haiti .
Bull. Quit trying to use the Clinton's to deflect from the terrible conduct of the current president.

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Old 09-30-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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As an official, she has a satellite phone. Nice try, though.
So why isn't she using that satellite phone to direct the relief effort, instead of spending every possibly moment to talk to CNN? (and amazingly in front of many tons of relief supplies just sitting there. it's hypocrisy that nobody would believe)

This speaks for itself.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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I'm calling BS.

The people in Puerto Rico are helping each other. There are all sorts of photos and reports of neighbors helping neighbors.

Texans got a ton of help. So did those in Florida.

As to the bankruptcy business, might not want to go too far with this. Trump siphoned off a bunch of money and stuck them with $33 million of that debt they are struggling to pay.

In any case, it makes no difference how much debt they have. They are Americans who need help. Where the hell are we?
The US Congress Passed the PROMESA Law in 2016, which Obama signed as a last ditch effort to keep Puerto Rico from going bankrupt and defaulting on all their loans.

The Government is filled with Corruption -- none of that had anything to do with Donald Trump. Most of their debt is centered around PREPA. This is not exactly a secret - NY Times, Washington Post, CNN Money and Slate have done articles about the debt.

A 2016 report on PREPA commissioned by the Puerto Rican government is scathing. In the latter months of that year, for example, Puerto Ricans experienced four to five times the number of service outages as U.S. customers on average, though they pay the second-highest rates in the U.S. after Hawaii. Instead of investing in preventive maintenance, PREPA operates in a permanent state of triage. Its budget is “opaque and discretionary.” Record keeping is “subpar.” A third of the capital budget is spend on discretionary administrative expenses, hinting at a slush fund. Thirty percent of PREPA’s employees have retired or migrated to the mainland since 2012, the Washington Post reports—especially its skilled workers. Money is short, the report concludes, but so is human and intellectual capital.

The agency has $9 billion in debt and said it needs $4 billion to upgrade its infrastructure, including plants whose reliance on oil is passed onto Puerto Ricans in the form of high rates and dirty air. It filed for bankruptcy in July.

And that was before a Category 5 hurricane pounded the island this week. SLATE
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Having worked as a broadcast technician for 20 years, the reporters can't do the 2nd job. However, reporters come with technicians &/or camera operators. If a technician had a trucking license, they could take a container & turn it into a story for air. That solves nothing & could be a problem if the truck drivers are union.
It's a crisis. Who cares about unions. I know drivers stateside who drove passed union lines and threatened but the need was great. This is getting disgusting.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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Lin-Manuel Miranda, in response to Trump tweets to Mayor of San Juan:


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“You’re going straight to hell, Donald Trump. No long lines for you. Someone will say, ‘Right this way, sir.’ They’ll clear a path.”
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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San Juan Mayor's tweets attacking Trump: Smart?

No.
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Desperate times call foe desperate measures. I am sure if your neighborhood and city were awash with raw sewage and the Orange dink was out golfing and insulting your mayor you would be fine with that.
Our mayor is smart and would make some constructive phone calls.

The Mayor of San Juan is stupid. Citizens of Puerto Rico do not vote for president, so she is not in a position to demand much.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Lin-Manuel Miranda, in response to Trump tweets to Mayor of San Juan:
So funny. And so hateful.. typical left.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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"Speaking today exclusively and live from Puerto Rico, is Puerto Rican born and raised, Colonel Michael A. Valle (”Torch”), Commander, 101st Air and Space Operations Group, and Director of the Joint Air Component Coordination Element, 1st Air Force, responsible for Hurricane Maria relief efforts in the U.S. commonwealth with a population of more than 3 million. Since the ‘apocalyptic’ Cat 4 storm tore into the spine of Puerto Rico on September 20, Col. Valle has been both duty and blood bound to help.

Col. Valle is a firsthand witness of the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) response supporting FEMA in Puerto Rico, and as a Puerto Rican himself with family members living in the devastation, his passion for the people is second to none. “It’s just not true,” Col. Valle says of the major disconnect today between the perception of a lack of response from Washington verses what is really going on on the ground. “I have family here. My parents’ home is here. My uncles, aunts, cousins, are all here. As a Puerto Rican, I can tell you that the problem has nothing to do with the U.S. military, FEMA, or the DoD.”

(Snip)

In one effort to get more drivers out, Governor Ricardo A. Rosselló of Puerto Rico has temporarily waved some hazardous materials requirements for truck transportation. Additionally, some truck drivers from outside the island have been brought in, and more are coming, however it’s not a fix-all. “We get more and more offers to help, but there is no where to stay, we can’t take any more bodies, there’s no where to put them.” Col. Valle says, adding that their “air mobility” is good, and reiterating that getting more supplies or manpower is not the issue.

When asked three times what else Washington can do to help, or anyone for that matter, three times Col. Valle answered, “It’s going to take time.”

U.S. MILITARY ON PUERTO RICO: "THE PROBLEM IS DISTRIBUTION" AND HERE'S WHY | HuffPost
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Lin-Manuel Miranda, in response to Trump tweets to Mayor of San Juan:

LOL.

Blows a hole in the deranged criticism of Trump.



(the left loses these arguments time after time)
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Thank you for reminding us all about the double whammie.



You should care. Would you really rather see Russia, China or North Korea help rebuild Puerto Rico so close to our southern border? Maybe put up a couple of missile silos aimed at the mainland U.S.A.?
You're welcome. So much is just common sense & being aware.

You've made a lot of good, common sense posts, but I could only rep you once. Honestly, it shouldn't be right & left. It should just be common decency.
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