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Old 09-30-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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Well how is it you know this? If your plan is reparations then you are peeing in the wind and should be smart enough to know it. Therefore you should have a backup or alternate plan.
Reparations simply means REPAIR.....policies to repair the damage done from centuries of racism. You are not for that because you don't link the condition to the legacy.....but rather, the inherent nature of the race.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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Reparations simply means REPAIR.....policies to repair the damage done from centuries of racism. You are not for that because you don't link the condition to the legacy.....but rather, the inherent nature of the race.
Neither do you.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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Reparations simply means REPAIR.....policies to repair the damage done from centuries of racism. You are not for that because you don't link the condition to the legacy.....but rather, the inherent nature of the race.
I have no preconceived notions about the inherent nature of any race. I deal in the abilities of individuals and acceptance of reality - then one's reaction and response to it.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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Reparations simply means REPAIR.
It actually means payment by those defeated, to those who defeated them.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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  • Democrat party does nothing for Blacks because Blacks will vote for them regardless.
Case in point.



Hillary Clinton puts hot sauce bottle in purse, heads South, goes to Black owned restaurant where she tastes the food and then speaks like Aunt Jemima. Blacks support her without question.



They would have gotten a lot more for Trump if they had been willing to look past party politics.





(LBJ was right.)

Right. Blacks will vote for Democrats without Democrats doing anything for blacks, so blacks vote to keep those out who would do things AGAINST blacks. Blacks are not voting for Democrats as much as they are voting against Republicans. If you want blacks to vote Republicans, then get those who are always talking down about blacks, get those who are members of hate groups, get those who believe that RACISM is an excuse......to move BACK over to the democratic party and you will see a rush of black voting Republican.....AGAIN.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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I have no preconceived notions about the inherent nature of any race. I deal in the abilities of individuals and acceptance of reality - then one's reaction and response to it.
Yeah.....you have no preconceived ideals about why the NFL, NBA...sprinting is dominated by blacks either.. Keep telling yourself that.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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Right. Blacks will vote for Democrats without Democrats doing anything for blacks, so blacks vote to keep those out who would do things AGAINST blacks. Blacks are not voting for Democrats as much as they are voting against Republicans. If you want blacks to vote Republicans, then get those who are always talking down about blacks, get those who are members of hate groups, get those who believe that RACISM is an excuse......to move BACK over to the democratic party and you will see a rush of black voting Republican.....AGAIN.
I don't care if Blacks vote for Democrats of not. They are only 13% of the electorate and most of that is concentrated in states that vote Red. This is their problem, not the Republican's.

If you want to voted to stay on that Democrat Plantation, then you are simply proving LBJ right, yet again. (and another 146 years to go too)
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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I don't care if Blacks vote for Democrats of not. They are only 13% of the electorate and most of that is concentrated in states that vote Red. This is their problem, not the Republican's.

If you want to voted to stay on that Democrat Plantation, then you are simply proving LBJ right, yet again.
That is irrelevant. If the Democrats tried to really target and help blacks.....they would lose white support to the Republican party. Blacks will vote for the Democratic party, without the democrats needing to offer blacks something, to keep out the party whose politicians are sent to represents those who are members of hate groups, those who think blacks are their own worse enemy, those who think the black condition of inequality has nothing to do with the history of racial oppression, etc. Why would black people even want to be a party that REPRESENTS anti-black interest?

To me blacks are not on a plantation with the Democrats.......more like they are under a shelter trying to keep from being attacked from Republican policies born from such constituents. When I look at it, the Democrats are making a calculated decision, blacks are making a calculated decision....made to be in the best interest of each entity.....and the result is Democrats get 90% of the black vote.

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Old 09-30-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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It actually means payment by those defeated, to those who defeated them.
Or payments to those enslaved....by those who enslaved them.
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Old 09-30-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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I often hear conservatives and others tell blacks that they are misguided for voting for Democrats in high numbers due to he fact that democrats are not doing anything for blacks. They point to democrat run cities with high rates of poverty and crime and other issues still plaguing the black community.

Is that fair? Now, I too recognize that democrats are not doing much for black in recent times, but the question is why? Think of it this way. What happens when people take antibiotics in too low dosages? The answer is that it does not do the job of making you well. In fact, doing so allows the bacterial to mutate and develop resistance to the treatment. You cannot say that using antibiotics is a failure when the problem is that you did not apply enough of it to eradicate the infection, thus allowing the bacterial to mutate.

Blacks continue to struggle, relative to other groups, despite voting democrat, because whites keep the dosage of treatment to low. The democratic party is the only party offering treatment and the opposition party, the republicans, seek to keep the treatment as low as possible, as they advocate to let your immune system handle it. The problem is that if the democratic party attempts to increase the dosage, they WILL LOSE WHITE VOTERS who will flip to the opposition party.

The democratic party really cannot target and help blacks without losing a lot of independent and swing white voters. The democratic party is still dependent upon a significant percentage of white voters. There are racist people who vote democrat due to one or two special interest, but who otherwise are conservative. If the party moves to much to help black people it risk losing many white voters and hence elections. The collective condition of blacks is not going to be changed by the policies of mayors or even governors. It it most impacted by federal policy and programs.

It's disingenuous or ignorant to say that democrats have failed blacks despite our overwhelming support. It's suicidal for the democratic party to put forth an all out effort to improve the condition of blacks because such a platform would make many white voters switch to vote republican. The less the democratic party does for blacks, in this era,.....the larger percentage of the white vote it can get. The more it seeks to target blacks for help, the lesser percentage of the white vote it will get resulting in less of a chance at winning elections. Lets be honest.....if the democratic party came out with a proposal and program for reparations (not a check) but a funded targeted effort aimed at blacks specifically......what is the chance of winning a national election with that on the platform?

Democrats are not failing blacks......America is failing blacks.
Our progressive government is failing everyone except the elite.
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