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Old 10-01-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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no it not, same as being lazy and sitting on your ass
Ya, I wonder how many sports fans are standing up in their living rooms when the national anthem is played.

 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I have no problem with players kneeling before President Trump. Kneeling is a sign of servitude to President Trump.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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I have no problem with players kneeling before President Trump. Kneeling is a sign of servitude to President Trump.
So you worship him as a god? That's scary.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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So you worship him as a god? That's scary.
I guess we already knew that about Trump fans but I'm surprised to see one of them admit it in public.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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When did the flag and anthem become idols that people worship? You guys treat them like Jesus.
Hmmm... having respect for the country you live in, the flag, and the anthem isn't idolizing it. Of course, I wouldn't expect to see any liberals having much respect for anything about America.

The left did idolize Obama, though. Put him on a pedestal even though he did more for illegals, refugees, and terrorists than he ever did for his own citizens. That is not worthy of any respect, and he got none from me.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: AZ
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When did the flag and anthem become idols that people worship? You guys treat them like Jesus.
Kind of like the way "you guys" worship Pelosi,Shumer,Obama and Hillary.

Sorry but standing for the NA is a sign of respect. These over paid cry babies can protest all they want on their own time, not at their jobs.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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I have no problem with players kneeling before President Trump. Kneeling is a sign of servitude to President Trump.
Your compliance is appreciated.








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So you worship him as a god? That's scary.


This country really moving towards something that.. I can't find words for and it's scary.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: VB
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This is simply reminding the players of a rule (an enforceable league rule, not merely operational policy) that has been in place for decades. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was fined over $30k by the NBA for refusing to stand for the anthem...in 1996.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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Hmmm... having respect for the country you live in, the flag, and the anthem isn't idolizing it. Of course, I wouldn't expect to see any liberals having much respect for anything about America.
You're exalting the symbols instead of what they represent, while opposing what they do represent. And I have no respect for this country after what Trump, Republicans, and his cave-dwelling followers have done to it. This country is just as bad as Russia.

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The left did idolize Obama, though. Put him on a pedestal even though he did more for illegals, refugees, and terrorists than he ever did for his own citizens. That is not worthy of any respect, and he got none from me.
Some may have, most didn't. I never did, and in fact was quite critical of him at times. But Obama wasn't viewed as an infallible god by 1/3 of the population like Trump is.
 
Old 10-01-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Honestly, I believe this is a matter for the players and the management to work out amongst themselves.

I don't watch professional sports, other than the occasional baseball game, so it really wasn't on the radar for me until Trump put it there. On the rare occasions I heard about it, I tended to sympathize with the players.

The thing is, now our esteemed president (choke) has made it a free speech issue by saying, "You have to stand."

No. That is not up to him. Not his choice, not his call. He can express his opinion, just like every other person in this country, but he cannot command people to stand just because he thinks they should.

You do not have to be opposed to Trump, or on the side of the players who choose to take a knee, to have an issue with this kind of dictatorial statement. All you have to do is think.
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