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Old 10-04-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
Cool, I like this a la carte approach. You pay for your own medicare, SS and other social services you are bleeding tax payers with. Perfect. I have millions in asset you can fend for yourself. I like this.
I'm not on medicare, nor will I ever be. Our insurance covers us through retirement and life span. Yeah, that's the union life, they take care of you. And we all pay into social security, so we are entitled to what we have paid. But I'm talking about the wall. You can pay for it but leave the rest of us out. How do you feel about that a al carte approach for you. Can you afford it.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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No it won't. Where there is a will there is a way. Besides, illegal immigration has already been reduced. I don't want our money going towards this when our country has more important issues. And the real problem is that Trump wants to reduce taxes, which favor the rich but that's for another thread. And we all know Mexico isn't going to pay like Trump said. So it falls on us. So where exactly would the money come from.
I almost read - where there is a wall, there is a way! LOL— but very true. Got pods Cat 1 coming up FL pandhandle thie weekend. A wall ? We will need houses, schools, work places, and infrastructure.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:43 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Nah business already does enough dirty work for the incompetent state. Just end all welfare and privatize the border. Billions saved without spending more billions on another failure.
The only thing standing in the way is the dems.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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I almost read - where there is a wall, there is a way LOL but very true. Got pods Cat 1 coming up FL pandhandle thie weekend. A wall ? We will need house schools work places and infrastructure.
LOL and yes I agree with you
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Walls will do nothing to stop a motivated person from crossing. All we need is to close the loop hole someone who is born on American soil is automatically an american, and level a fine of 40% annual gross revenue against any company who hires, or sub-contracts a person who has not had their identity verified though E-verify. You won't need a wall most will go back when they can't find work, and their kids will no longer be born American. Those 2 things is all we need to fix the problem we have with illegal immigration. What will that cost American tax payers $0
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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A third of undocumented immigrants 15 and older lives with at least one child who is a United States citizen by birth. Slightly more than 30 percent own homes. Only a tiny fraction has been convicted of felonies or serious misdemeanors."

A new wall is not going to change anything. It's a big waste of money. There are a lot better uses for that $10 billion.
They are illegal aliens, not "undocumented immigrants."

The actual waste of money is the billions of dollars that illegal aliens cost the United States every year.
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:50 AM
 
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So much for the fiscal conservative republicans, and the republicans say Democrats are big spenders. Democrats wouldn't fund a stupid wall. They wouldn't have to worry about the illegals if they couldn't find work. Trouble is we want cheap labor.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What a poorly written article. The committee doesn’t pass legislation. This still has to come to a vote.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Walls will do nothing to stop a motivated person from crossing. All we need is to close the loop hole someone who is born on American soil is automatically an american, and level a fine of 40% annual gross revenue against any company who hires, or sub-contracts a person who has not had their identity verified though E-verify. You won't need a wall most will go back when they can't find work, and their kids will no longer be born American. Those 2 things is all we need to fix the problem we have with illegal immigration. What will that cost American tax payers $0
Yeah, but you’re making sense and Trump’s lackeys only care about vociferous chest pounding and grandstanding.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Pregnant women and children are going to scale a wall with a rope?

I'm all for sending people hiring illegals to jail, but when cities refuse to even detain illegals for deportation, do you think they will crack down on employers?

Politicians and police can ignore laws, but it's hard to ignore a wall.

If we actually enforced our immigration laws, we would not need a wall. Our laws are NOT being enforced, hence the need for walls.
That sums it up.
The wall is not going to stop 100% of border crossings.
But it is going to make it much more difficult and costly for an illegal to get here.
If it cuts down 95% of the crossings -- it is money well spent.
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