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So basically you are saying citizens should have the right to own nuclear weapons. Correct?
this is a stupid question and you know it. especially since a nuclear weapon is classed as an explosive, and not a firearm. now rockets and missiles on the other hand...........
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
If my post came across as insinuating that's what you wanted, my apologies, since that wasn't how I meant it.
actually i knew exactly what you meant. you agreed with me, but you also agreed that it would be stupid to repeal any of our rights.
this is a stupid question and you know it. especially since a nuclear weapon is classed as an explosive, and not a firearm. now rockets and missiles on the other hand...........
actually i knew exactly what you meant. you agreed with me, but you also agreed that it would be stupid to repeal any of our rights.
It is not a stupid question. Can someone delineate a small arm? You can call a nuke an explosive but rifles legally can dispense explosive bullets. I am still waiting for a definition.
we have had this argument before, the fact is that any amendment, even the second, can be repealed. the process is laid out in the constitution itself.
That would infringe on my basic right to life, liberty & property.
So basically you are saying citizens should have the right to own nuclear weapons. Correct?
Let me explain the difference.
I can take a select fire M16 with a full clip and leave it untouched in my basement for 75 years without it harming another person.
If I had a nuclear weapon in my basement untouched for 75 years, it may very well start leaking radioactive contamination and negatively impact hundreds or even thousands of my neighbors.
The same goes for biological and chemical weapons.
I can take a select fire M16 with a full clip and leave it untouched in my basement for 75 years without it harming another person.
If I had a nuclear weapon in my basement untouched for 75 years, it may very well start leaking radioactive contamination and negatively impact hundreds or even thousands of my neighbors.
The same goes for biological and chemical weapons.
OK. I have asked this twice I will try again. What constitutes a small weapon. What is the definition.
Please don't try to lecture me on nuclear decay as I was in the navy nuclear program and are quite familiar. The blast radius would have been the issue anyways.
The whole conversation of gun control revolves around. The right seems to think the left wants to ban all guns. Generally speaking that is nonsense. I feel there should be limits on payload. There is no need for guns that deliver a 100 rounds per minute.
It is not a stupid question. Can someone delineate a small arm? You can call a nuke an explosive but rifles legally can dispense explosive bullets. I am still waiting for a definition.
you mean to tell me that you as a thinking adult, supposedly, do not know the difference between a bomb and a small arm? and where in the constitution does even say small arms? it says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. it does not say small arms, large arms, or what ever.
as for explosive bullets, and comparing them to nuclear weapons, that is a completely rubbish argument and you know it as well. when was the last time an explosive bullet blew up a large section of a city?
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Originally Posted by BentBow
That would infringe on my basic right to life, liberty & property.
oh yeah, the old life liberty and pursuit of happiness argument. sorry not a law or right listed in the constitution, you only find that in the declaration of independence. nice try but you fail.
you mean to tell me that you as a thinking adult, supposedly, do not know the difference between a bomb and a small arm? and where in the constitution does even say small arms? it says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. it does not say small arms, large arms, or what ever.
as for explosive bullets, and comparing them to nuclear weapons, that is a completely rubbish argument and you know it as well. when was the last time an explosive bullet blew up a large section of a city?
oh yeah, the old life liberty and pursuit of happiness argument. sorry not a law or right listed in the constitution, you only find that in the declaration of independence. nice try but you fail.
I most certainly do know the difference. The question is when do things become indiscriminate.
Guy shooting a rifle that can dispense over 100 rounds per second. Is that accurate or precise? Of course not. Could it do as much collateral damage as a small explosive? Of course.
This is what gun control talk needs to be about. Limitations. Of course the NRA is all about no limitations.
you mean to tell me that you as a thinking adult, supposedly, do not know the difference between a bomb and a small arm? and where in the constitution does even say small arms? it says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. it does not say small arms, large arms, or what ever.
as for explosive bullets, and comparing them to nuclear weapons, that is a completely rubbish argument and you know it as well. when was the last time an explosive bullet blew up a large section of a city?
oh yeah, the old life liberty and pursuit of happiness argument. sorry not a law or right listed in the constitution, you only find that in the declaration of independence. nice try but you fail.
Your basic rights do not come from the constitution itself. Every human, not in bondage to another human, incarcerated or dead, had the right to their life, their liberty and their property, before the constitution was composed and ratified, to allow government to exist in the first place.
The beauty of the 2nd amendment is, by placing the words, shall not be infringed. even an attempt to amend it, would be unconstitutional ans it would infringe on that basic right to preserve your own life, liberty and what is yours, with lethal force of arms.
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