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Old 10-17-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
#1 purchase with food stamps is SODA. FACT!

As asked for before, please provide images of these starving poor in America. You shouldn't have any trouble since "Pinterest is full of them"

Meanwhile you bleeding heard libs are insulting the real poor people in this world. You know the ones who watch their children die in their arms because there isn't ANY food. They've probably never even tasted soda.

Caffeine (in colas) and sugar are important in contributing to the productivity of many Americans.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Caffeine (in colas) and sugar are important in contributing to the productivity of many Americans.
If only it were sugar. But it's high fructose corn syrup (a.k.a diabetes syrup).

https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/...syrup-diabetes

Isn't it great. A good portion of the working week goes to pay for soda for the "poor". They then get fat and diabetic and we have to buy them health care. They have 4 kids, we have to pay for them to. Those kids grown up just like their parents, so now we now have 16 fat diabetics with massive health care bills. Most hard working Americans can't afford to retire, because their still working to pay for this mess.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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Sorry. I'm not going to discuss your fabricated numbers, you fraud
Before you call someone a fraud, you really need to establish your bona fida. We have a not so nice word that describe the people who call others “fraud” without providing anything supporting information.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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How is that possible when every one has different income levels ?

Are you proposing communism ? I thought we hated commies ?
I didn’t know this is rocket science. Everyone should pay $0 on their income, profit and property and implement a consumption based tax.

Last edited by lifeexplorer; 10-17-2017 at 11:37 AM..
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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Before you call someone a fraud, you really need to establish your bona fida. We have a not so nice word that describe the people who call others “fraud” without providing anything supporting information.
They don't have anything to support their position. It's all about how they feel. And there's no problem liberal ideology can't solve, with other people's money. Except, the quote should really be, "there's no problem liberal ideology can't exacerbate, with other people's money". At the end of the day, as long as they feel they're doing something good (with other peoples money) that's all that matters. Logic and facts be damned!

I'm still waiting for all the pics of the starving poor in America.

Here's a fact.

Right now, more than 1 billion people suffer from hunger. This means that 1 in every 6 people on Earth don't get enough food to live a healthy life. This year 36 million of these people will die of hunger!

How Many People Die From Hunger Each Year? - The World Counts

Meanwhile, here in America, the taxpayer is being fleeced so the "poor" can eat themselves to death on junk food.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
If only it were sugar. But it's high fructose corn syrup (a.k.a diabetes syrup).
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/...syrup-diabetes

Isn't it great. A good portion of the working week goes to pay for soda for the "poor". They then get fat and diabetic and we have to buy them health care. They have 4 kids, we have to pay for them to. Those kids grown up just like their parents, so now we now have 16 fat diabetics with massive health care bills. Most hard working Americans can't afford to retire, because their still working to pay for this mess.
Not only poor people get fat so miss me with that. For the record, I think HFCS should be banned but I'm sure that will never happen so there's no use in talking about it.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Not true. The additional $3.2 trillion you cite is wrong, per your own study.
False.

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"The increase in federal expenditures would be considerably larger than the increase in national health expenditures because substantial spending borne by states, employers, and households under current law would shift to the federal government under the Sanders [Medicare for All] plan. Federal expenditures in 2017 would increase by $1.9 trillion for acute care for the nonelderly, by $465.9 billion for those otherwise enrolled in Medicare, and by $212.1 billion for long-term services and supports.

In total, federal spending would increase by about $2.5 trillion (257.6 percent) in 2017. Federal expenditures would increase by about $32.0 trillion (232.7 percent) between 2017 and 2026. The increase in federal spending is so large because the federal government would absorb a substantial amount of current spending by state and local governments, employers, and households."
https://www.urban.org/sites/default/...-Care-Plan.pdf

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It would be an additional $2.5 trillion of Federal spending with $2.35 trillion in offsetting savings.
First of all, your number is incorrect, as noted above.

Secondly, WHO would get the supposed "offsets?" And WHO would be charged for the extra $3.2 trillion/year in federal tax revenue required to fund it?

Don't hide behind your emotions. Show your math.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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#1 purchase with food stamps is SODA. FACT!

As asked for before, please provide images of these starving poor in America. You shouldn't have any trouble since "Pinterest is full of them"

Meanwhile you bleeding heard libs are insulting the real poor people in this world. You know the ones who watch their children die in their arms because there isn't ANY food. They've probably never even tasted soda.
"Bleeding heard libs"??? Well there ya go, the final indicator that you have no interest in rational discussion.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Not false. You claim:

"the additional cost to Fed Gov for national health care, is actually $3.2 trillion/year"

your study said:

"In total, federal spending would increase by about $2.5 trillion"
Ten year time frame. The same way the CBO prices proposed legislation: 10-year projections. $32 trillion divided by 10 = $3.2 trillion/year.

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The taxpayer gets the offset.
How? Show your math.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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They don't have anything to support their position. It's all about how they feel. And there's no problem liberal ideology can't solve, with other people's money. Except, the quote should really be, "there's no problem liberal ideology can't exacerbate, with other people's money". At the end of the day, as long as they feel they're doing something good (with other peoples money) that's all that matters. Logic and facts be damned!

I'm still waiting for all the pics of the starving poor in America.

Here's a fact.

Right now, more than 1 billion people suffer from hunger. This means that 1 in every 6 people on Earth don't get enough food to live a healthy life. This year 36 million of these people will die of hunger!

How Many People Die From Hunger Each Year? - The World Counts

Meanwhile, here in America, the taxpayer is being fleeced so the "poor" can eat themselves to death on junk food.
What the heck is wrong with you? You're the only one comparing the poverty stricken in America those in third world countries. Why do you think that is even a valid comparator?

NO ONE has even suggested there are starving poor in America...NO ONE. Stop with the lying bullcrap.

It suits your bigotry to a "T" to enter third world starvation into the equation because then you can claim poverty in the U.S. is all about choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...t-poverty-rate
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