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And not a deflection, it shows a very clear path that Obama can lie and get away with it....
The same people that screamed about Obama saying plans would be kept have no problem with Trump lying about everyone getting health care, better health care and the government would pay for it.
The house would pass those same bills and nothing would happen because it would stall in the Senate. The thing I see is Trump and the Republicans NEED to watch what they do because otherwise, the house, Senate and the presidency will revert to blue because people on a whole like if not love Obamacare. What is Trump doing, destroying piece by piece.
Trump is literally taking people's health care away by taking the subsidies. He is literally, maliciously causing them harm. THERE IS NO REPLACE. This is just take away. Make no mistake, Trump supporters who held Obama accountable are ignoring that Obama signed the bill put before him. That was a bill passed in Congress. Republicans own the House, the Senate and the presidency and all they have done in ten months is hurt people.
Can't wait for Trump to tell people with pre-existing conditions to go die.
The same people that screamed about Obama saying plans would be kept have no problem with Trump lying about everyone getting health care, better health care and the government would pay for it.
Again, funny that the left now cares about promises...did you care what we thought? Of course not
You did not care when Obama broke his, why should we care what you think when trump breaks his?
The Trump administration has continued making the the disbursements to insurers, known as cost-sharing reduction payments, on a monthly basis. But Trump had consistently threatened to end the payments, which are worth an estimated $7 billion this year.
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The payments were created as part of the Affordable Care Act but were then the subject of a lawsuit by House Republicans during the Obama administration. A federal court ruled the payments were being made illegally, but the Obama administration appealed.
Congress could still decide to appropriate the payments, and there is bipartisan agreement that they should be made. But no action has been taken, and some Republicans are hesitant to vote for what they see as a bailout of ObamaCare.
Looking at this from an adult's vantage point... these payments are illegal as ruled by the court. Congress - in a typical fashion - was scared to take action and make the payments legal - for fear of supporting ObamaCare and facing the wrath of their constituents.
So here we are. As of now - the payments are illegal and should be stopped.
The Trump administration has continued making the the disbursements to insurers, known as cost-sharing reduction payments, on a monthly basis. But Trump had consistently threatened to end the payments, which are worth an estimated $7 billion this year.
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The payments were created as part of the Affordable Care Act but were then the subject of a lawsuit by House Republicans during the Obama administration. A federal court ruled the payments were being made illegally, but the Obama administration appealed.
Congress could still decide to appropriate the payments, and there is bipartisan agreement that they should be made. But no action has been taken, and some Republicans are hesitant to vote for what they see as a bailout of ObamaCare.
Looking at this from an adult's vantage point... these payments are illegal as ruled by the court. Congress - in a typical fashion - was scared to take action and make the payments legal - for fear of supporting ObamaCare and facing the wrath of their constituents.
So here we are. As of now - the payments are illegal and should be stopped.
Picking the words "as of now" carefully?
Obama was appealing the ruling, just as Trump has appealed MANY rulings. Trump has stopped the appeal because he wants to hurt people and will hurt people. Trump has not brought better healthcare to everyone. Trump has not made health care cheaper. Government is not paying for it, in fact Trump is making sure it doesn't - the exact opposite of what Trump said while campaigning. Trump wants more money for a wall than the amount he refuses to pay to help people get health care.
What will Trump say to those people when they cannot get coverage due to the stop in subsidies? Too bad, you should have known better than to elect me? What will Trump tell people with pre-existing conditions when their costs are beyond their ability to pay? Go die?
Obama was appealing the ruling, just as Trump has appealed MANY rulings. Trump has stopped the appeal because he wants to hurt people and will hurt people. Trump has not brought better healthcare to everyone. Trump has not made health care cheaper. Government is not paying for it, in fact Trump is making sure it doesn't - the exact opposite of what Trump said while campaigning. Trump wants more money for a wall than the amount he refuses to pay to help people get health care.
What will Trump say to those people when they cannot get coverage due to the stop in subsidies? Too bad, you should have known better than to elect me? What will Trump tell people with pre-existing conditions when their costs are beyond their ability to pay? Go die?
your comments here are spurious!
The FACT is these payments are ILLEGAL because they were never approved by congress! you cannot simply EO funds not appropriated by congress. That's illegal and dang near a high crime. or is that what you want? Trump approves the payment then you try to impeach for spending money not authorized by congress?
dems still mad about not violating the constitution.
these funds were never approved by congress. its unconstitutional and illegal to send these billions to private companies.
Congress needs to act. The president is the only one acting responsibly.
Trump just took health coverage away from people. Trump chose to stop the appeal so he could hurt people. The Republican Party chose to hurt people. Trump promised "government will pay and everyone will be covered and get better health care". Lies.
your comments here are spurious!
The FACT is these payments are ILLEGAL because they were never approved by congress! you cannot simply EO funds not appropriated by congress. That's illegal and dang near a high crime. or is that what you want? Trump approves the payment then you try to impeach for spending money not authorized by congress?
How many times has Trump appealed the courts? Remember the Muslim ban? Appealed multiple times. Trump stopped the appeal in progress so he could stop the payments so he could hurt people. Trump has made the payments for months, if he was afraid of impeachment, that would have happened months ago. This is Trump lashing out to hurt as many people as he can from the LGBT community, to Puerto Rico to sick and elderly people not yet old enough to receive Medicare. Trump LIED when he said everyone would get covered with better care and the government would pay for it.
Funny how Trump supporters blame this on Congress but this is 100% Trump and the same Executive Orders that Republicans screamed about before. The hypocrisy is incredible. Trump personally take away subsidies that help the poor and Trump supporters say it's Congress' fault? This is 100% Trump, who said he would cover everyone with better health care and the government would pay for it. TRUMP LIES.
trump is trying to do things in a proper manner, like going through congress as the constitution REQUIRES. try reading it sometime it tells you that congress makes the laws not the president. trump is still pushing for congress to do their damned jobs and get a health care bill to him. at this point however, trump only has executive orders that can do only so much, but he is trying to get the job done.
do us all a favor and stop getting your news from places that hate trump, you wont get the real news.
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The house would pass those same bills and nothing would happen because it would stall in the Senate. The thing I see is Trump and the Republicans NEED to watch what they do because otherwise, the house, Senate and the presidency will revert to blue because people on a whole like if not love Obamacare. What is Trump doing, destroying piece by piece.
that may happen, but with democrats stubbornly opposing anything trump is trying to do, the people are more likely to vote out the old guard, and vote in new people that are willing to work with trump, regardless of party affiliation.
remember trump is taking his message to the people and the people are going to tell congress to get their jobs done or lose the next election.
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