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I realize there is a difference, but where, exactly, do you draw the line? Verbal intimidation? Unwanted touching of a butt or a breast? Grabbing the kitty?
I think there is a spectrum of sexual misbehavior, and those whose "milder" offenses are ignored may feel emboldened to take things to the next level.
That's true, but there's the opposite problem too. I knew a fraternity filled with dumb, testosterone-ridden young men who were constantly either drunk or lifting weights. I did see them studying from time to time, in groups no less, and I think they didn't receive particularly poor grades, but they'd do dumb things like go buy beer from a gas station and take it to their dormitory (and it was a dry campus) and they'd bring the beer in a gym bag filled with air holes so that anybody who looked at it closely could see that it was filled with Keystone Ice.
There was a group of girls who would hang out with those fraternity members. The girls had been around them for a long time. They were all friends, promiscuous, drunk friends. One of the guys engaged in some drunken leg fondling of one of the girls. They were not dating. She told him to stop, so he stopped. She stayed with the group. Problem solved.
Many of those mild offenses are nothing more than mild offenses. It all depends on the situation, how well the people know each other, etc.
There is no definite point to draw the line, and I think that's what's important to remember. There is no definite, society-given line that can be drawn before actual rape, except for things like running up to a complete stranger in a grocery store or some other non-social environment and fondling them or something.
probably because everyone on the planet has been harassed. I'm an ugly fat man and it's happened to me. I used to be slightly less ugly and fat, but I was still socially awkward and talked to myself. If the two are grouped together, it's not exactly revealing much of a problem, necessarily.
Although, this way it's much less like you're being encouraged to post: "Hey everyone! I've been sexually assaulted!" which might be kind of cruel to push people to reveal....
Not talking about being insulted. I've been insulted, too. I think that's practically universal.
I'm talking about being sexually harassed. Or blackmailed bc of/for sex.
Just saw it yesterday..if you are a woman who has been sexually assaulted sometime in your lifetime you are supposed to simply post "Me Too" on your timeline to show that the problem is rampant in light of the Harvey Wienstein case. Uh....no....not playing that game. Thoughts?
Mae
It's not a 'challenge'. Why would you use that as part of your thread title?
It's not a competition for goodness sake!!
It's a statement of solidarity.
Even though I have been sexually harassed and support those who want to speak out, I just don't get involved in any emotional or political movements on facebook at all. That's not how I use it.
It is not so easy to differentiate between sexual assault and harassment anyway. There is a clearer line with sexual battery, but it is easy to miss the line when someone's sexual harassment of you became sexual assault instead.
I realize there is a difference, but where, exactly, do you draw the line? Verbal intimidation? Unwanted touching of a butt or a breast? Grabbing the kitty?
I think there is a spectrum of sexual misbehavior, and those whose "milder" offenses are ignored may feel emboldened to take things to the next level.
Harassment can be just words. It should not be placed in the same category as assault. Assault comes in different levels. Some idiot on a crowded train brushes your butt or breasts over your jacket it is just annoying. A drunk guy at a Christmas party gives you a kiss under the mistletoe and tries to slip the tongue, annoying.
Then there are the real assaults- full on molestation.
Rape is in another category altogether, it is cruel and insensitive to lump it in with anything else.
Its good that people can realise just how widespread it is - I doubt there's a single female I know who hasn't experienced sexual harassment or assault at some point in their life. I'm not brave enough to post me too on facebook though because I don't want my mum trying to talk to me about it.
Harassment can be just words. It should not be placed in the same category as assault. Assault comes in different levels. Some idiot on a crowded train brushes your butt or breasts over your jacket it is just annoying. A drunk guy at a Christmas party gives you a kiss under the mistletoe and tries to slip the tongue, annoying.
Then there are the real assaults- full on molestation.
Rape is in another category altogether, it is cruel and insensitive to lump it in with anything else.
This has to be the most nitpicky breakdown of something very serious that I've ever seen.
How could you presume to know how it feels to a woman to continually have dudes casually groping their bodies on crowded trains?
Some guy shoving his tongue in your mouth is assault, too.
A "real" assault is any sort of touching, groping, grabbing, kissing, that you DID not consent to.
And, yes... being raped is worse, but that doesn't mean that an assault won't change a person's life.
I good many people I'm seeing were molested as children. Not raped, necessarily, but definitely molested.
Are you going to tell them that they weren't raped, so it's just not a big deal?
Come on.
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