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Was Manifest Destiny part of the "limited government"? The government was heavily involved in expanding the frontier, waging wars against the natives, build railways and grant land to settlers.
From our standard it would appear to be libertarian because the government was quite small and regulations and safety nets almost non existent.
Welfare has to be compulsory, since most people are stupid and selfish, the same reason we have Social Security, since the vast majority can't save to spare their lives
You shouldnt be so hard on yourself and we have SS because it gave the politicians a great pool of wealth to dip into, while making people further dependent on the mothership
Obama's jobs czar was one of the biggest exporters of jobs around. Libertarians were against the bail outs. The lower classes would be better off today without them.
I dont think anyone seriously believes that libertarianism is good for the poor? Maybe in some blogs and among libertarian "think tanks" but thats just an attempt to give it wider appeal than than the people who would benefit, the top 0.1%. Cant win elections with 0.1% of the vote so its important to try to dupe the masses.
From our standard it would appear to be libertarian because the government was quite small and regulations and safety nets almost non existent.
By that logic, the Congo and other central African countries are libertarian. Very weak and small government, very little regulations and no safety net.
The US was mostly a libertarian country until the 1930s.
No it wasn't. It wasn't even close. It may have been closer than it is now, since now we live in a full blown Fabian socialist welfare state instead of just 90% of one, but there was no point since the convention to create a strong central government that this country was anywhere close to libertarian. Believe me, plenty of libertarians get this wrong too, and I am not just talking about slavery and tariffs.
By that logic, the Congo and other central African countries are libertarian. Very weak and small government, very little regulations and no safety net.
I would argue thats what a libertarian country would come to resemble given time.
I dont think anyone seriously believes that libertarianism is good for the poor? Maybe in some blogs and among libertarian "think tanks" but thats just an attempt to give it wider appeal than than the people who would benefit, the top 0.1%. Cant win elections with 0.1% of the vote so its important to try to dupe the masses.
The Republicans were for the bail outs. The Democrats were for the bail outs. The Libertarians were against the bail outs. The bail outs hurt the poor.
Is that simplistic and a generalization. Yes. Can anyone make an argument for many different things? Absolutely. In that example I side with the Libertarians.
Because without helicopter govt you will become a savage?
No just neglect the poor defund education give the wealthy unchecked power and slowly the country will deteriorate. Poverty in the US is kept in check by government programs do you really want to live in a country where people will just starve to death if they lose a job? Crime will spike crime is bad for the economy. Lots of things people like you don't even consider when you advocate for a libertarian style state.
Libertarians don't give a crap about the poor or helping them, and Republicans don't either. They both think that if you are poor that it's your own fault, even if you work hard and are still poor
Democrats don't give a crap about the poor or helping them either. If they gave a crap, they'd volunteer their own money instead of volunteering everyone else's.
There is exactly zero virtue in promising to take from others in the name of whatever. Saying there is no amount of other people's money you are not willing to spend does not make you generous, it makes you an accessory to theft...at best.
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