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Old 10-21-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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The difference today though, it is being done by mass conditioning of the public, to accept loosing freedoms, accepting of all kinds of new laws and regulations, accepting and even applauding an increasing police state, believing it is all being done to protect their health and safety and the good of the country.

What better way to usher in tyranny with no possibility of the people rising up and revolting than to disguise tyranny as security or safety.

If England had used the same tactic, and had enough time to thoroughly condition everyone, there would have never been an american revolution.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Umm
Firearms are heavily regulated...
Name any other right that requires a permit, a background check, and has expressed limitations via state. Like the 1st 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th etc etc...

Do abortions require a background check?
Do abortions require a permit?
Are abortions limited in frequency?
Interesting points. And I'd like to see an answer to that.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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The difference today though, it is being done by mass conditioning of the public, to accept loosing freedoms, accepting of all kinds of new laws and regulations, accepting and even applauding an increasing police state, believing it is all being done to protect their health and safety and the good of the country.

What better way to usher in tyranny with no possibility of the people rising up and revolting than to disguise tyranny as security or safety.

If England had used the same tactic, and had enough time to thoroughly condition everyone, there would have never been an american revolution.
Maybe we would have been better off without leaving England.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Interesting points. And I'd like to see an answer to that.
This is where I come in and dismantle their emotional drivel calling for bans and regulations/restrictions...

Give me a few minutes I'll get EVERYTHING together that dismantles their argument that shows far more people die at the hands of another with other implements than the oh so dreaded oh so powerful modern sporting rifle they manipulated into being a "assault rifle"

Get your popcorn ready.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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Not likely. The National Socialist candidate was defeated in the Dem primary and doesn't seem likely to make a comeback. And the others pushing national socialism are generally regarded as loons-entertaining, but hardly viable candidates.
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Socialism was rejected this past election, so we aren't as close as OP thinks. Unless he's rewriting history on who the Nazis were.
Perfect examples of why such atrocities can occur again. Truly amazing that some people do not know the difference between socialism and fascism. With their "logic" the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or North Korea is run by the democrats and is a democracy. Please educate yourselves!!!
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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Not nearly as many as many that people kill others with cars, HIV/AIDS, alcohol, medical malpractice or drugs.

Guns are inanimate objects, just like cars. They by themselves, can not kill. You need an end user to kill...
You should stop with the paranoia...
Cars serve a purpose other than killing, guns don't.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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Perfect examples of why such atrocities can occur again. Truly amazing that some people do not know the difference between socialism and fascism. With their "logic" the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or North Korea is run by the democrats and is a democracy. Please educate yourselves!!!
That's exactly what they're arguing. Saying Nazism was left wing is like claiming North Korea is a Democracy.

Patently stupid logic, but that's the standard for Trump voters.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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bernie sanders
No he isn't.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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There is a sign hanging in the Holocaust museum highlighting the 14 elements of Fascism. Trump is following every single one. It's like the Hitler playbook.
Don't forget he singled out a part of the population calling them deplorable, singling them out for all to hunt down and blame for America's failures. Oh snap! That wasn't Trump. Whew!
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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That's exactly what they're arguing. Saying Nazism was left wing is like claiming North Korea is a Democracy.

Patently stupid logic, but that's the standard for Trump voters.
It's easy to ignore and brush off a few internet idiots but my concern is how widespread is this type of thinking. To have a few outliers is normal but if this is more mainstream than we have a problem. Trump did say he liked the poorly educated after all. Very frightening.
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