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Old 11-01-2017, 05:52 PM
 
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That isn't the question, the question is, so you think you should have never been born?
No. The question is would my mother's life had been better had I not been born? I'm quite okay with saying, "Possibly."
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Old 11-01-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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Pro-Abortion Fallacy of the Day:


Pro-Abortion Fallacy of the Day: “Why Don’t You Pro-Lifers Adopt These Unwanted Children?”
Brought to you by LifeNews, the producers of such classics as:

Niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Slams Abortion, Calls Killing Unborn Children “Womb Lynching,"
Pro-Abortion Glamour Names Sharia Law Apologist Linda Sarsour “Woman of the Year," and Court Rules Brain Damaged Woman’s Daughters Can Starve Her to Death.

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Old 11-01-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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I thought of this thread when I read this, on my favorite satire site:
Opinion: You Can't Oppose Killing Puppies Unless You Adopt Every Dog On The Planet

Fallacies and false equivalencies abound on this thread.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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Trump voters have no problem with killing kids. They vote against healthcare for mothers and babies, love bombing other countries, love the death penalty, gun proliferation and general chaos.

What they don't like is women having rights. So they invented the abortion issue, even though no one cared about it until recently, was never mentioned in the bible or any formal religious teaching, but now it's an issue if you end a pregnancy after a month, but no problem to Trump cultists if you kill the kid after birth.

And they don't even care about embryos. Abortions have plummeted since Rowe v. Wade, obviously, because the procedure became safe and strictly regulated.



Stupid posts like this are why trying to have an honest discussion about the subject is worthless. Pro choice folks are simply dishonest on the issue, and cannot allow themselves to understand the truth of the other side. So they must make stuff up, like "you just want to control a womans body". They know they don't hold the morally superior position ( I mean, how can supporting the right to terminate unborn children for simple convenience ever be the morally superior position?) , and so they must find a way to knock down the opposing side since they really cant support their side on pure moral grounds. But claims like this are either the result of complete ignorance on the part of pro choice, or of outright dishonesty.


Do I care what you do with your body? Not one bit. Have sex all you want with whomever you wish, same sex or opposite sex. Have sex with 2 or 3 people, or have fun at orgies. I simply don't care. All I care about is that if you are going to do so, then be adult enough to accept the consequences if you become pregnant through your choice to have sex, and don't become some sniveling whinebag blaming everyone who doesnt want you to have the right to simply end the life because it is an "inconvenience" to you for not supporting your stupidity or laziness. Grow the hell up and accept what happens if it does.


Now if you were raped, then sure, abortions should be available. If you have health issues, or the fetus does, then again, sometimes hard choices must be made and I would support the right to an abortion in these situations. But simple stupidity or laziness , or even the failure of BC, why should people support a right for you to solve your self created issues by giving you the right to simply end another life because it is an inconvenience to you?


I don't give a damn about your body or controlling it, I just want you to act like a responsible adult when you make the choice to engage in an act that evolution designed for the purpose of impregnating you.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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You make no sense. "get out of the bedroom"?

It's plain and simple. If you want to ban abortions and force women who would have gotten an abortion to carry a pregnancy to full term, then you need to be willing to pay for that unwanted child's upbringing. That could either be directly to the parents of the unwanted child or through the foster system.
Where did I say I wanted to ban abortions?

And further, thats like saying taxpayers should pickup the tab for property taxes because someone bought a house and then cant afford to live there any longer..
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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What is sickening about the left's attitude on abortion is that, as with all other topics, it's all or nothing. It's not enough to tolerate abortion in the very early weeks, yet condemn it. No, the Democrats must celebrate it, encourage it as a way of life and as just another day in the life of people.

That's right, Democrats celebrate abortion, which is the most offensive part.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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Now if you were raped, then sure, abortions should be available. If you have health issues, or the fetus does, then again, sometimes hard choices must be made and I would support the right to an abortion in these situations. But simple stupidity or laziness , or even the failure of BC, why should people support a right for you to solve your self created issues by giving you the right to simply end another life because it is an inconvenience to you?


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Because my uterus is none of your business, and neither are my medical decisions.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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What is sickening about the left's attitude on abortion is that, as with all other topics, it's all or nothing. It's not enough to tolerate abortion in the very early weeks, yet condemn it. No, the Democrats must celebrate it, encourage it as a way of life and as just another day in the life of people.

That's right, Democrats celebrate abortion, which is the most offensive part.
Yes, we throw it a big party every year. There's a cake and balloons and everything, and a bouncy house for the kids.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Stupid posts like this are why trying to have an honest discussion about the subject is worthless. Pro choice folks are simply dishonest on the issue, and cannot allow themselves to understand the truth of the other side. So they must make stuff up, like "you just want to control a womans body". They know they don't hold the morally superior position ( I mean, how can supporting the right to terminate unborn children for simple convenience ever be the morally superior position?) , and so they must find a way to knock down the opposing side since they really cant support their side on pure moral grounds. But claims like this are either the result of complete ignorance on the part of pro choice, or of outright dishonesty.


Do I care what you do with your body? Not one bit. Have sex all you want with whomever you wish, same sex or opposite sex. Have sex with 2 or 3 people, or have fun at orgies. I simply don't care. All I care about is that if you are going to do so, then be adult enough to accept the consequences if you become pregnant through your choice to have sex, and don't become some sniveling whinebag blaming everyone who doesnt want you to have the right to simply end the life because it is an "inconvenience" to you for not supporting your stupidity or laziness. Grow the hell up and accept what happens if it does.


Now if you were raped, then sure, abortions should be available. If you have health issues, or the fetus does, then again, sometimes hard choices must be made and I would support the right to an abortion in these situations. But simple stupidity or laziness , or even the failure of BC, why should people support a right for you to solve your self created issues by giving you the right to simply end another life because it is an inconvenience to you?


I don't give a damn about your body or controlling it, I just want you to act like a responsible adult when you make the choice to engage in an act that evolution designed for the purpose of impregnating you.


91% of abortions happen within the first trimester...so yes, it's mostly an issue of a woman's right over her body. You could have discovered that with a 30 second google search.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Stupid posts like this are why trying to have an honest discussion about the subject is worthless. Pro choice folks are simply dishonest on the issue, and cannot allow themselves to understand the truth of the other side. So they must make stuff up, like "you just want to control a womans body". They know they don't hold the morally superior position ( I mean, how can supporting the right to terminate unborn children for simple convenience ever be the morally superior position?) , and so they must find a way to knock down the opposing side since they really cant support their side on pure moral grounds. But claims like this are either the result of complete ignorance on the part of pro choice, or of outright dishonesty.


Do I care what you do with your body? Not one bit. Have sex all you want with whomever you wish, same sex or opposite sex. Have sex with 2 or 3 people, or have fun at orgies. I simply don't care. All I care about is that if you are going to do so, then be adult enough to accept the consequences if you become pregnant through your choice to have sex, and don't become some sniveling whinebag blaming everyone who doesnt want you to have the right to simply end the life because it is an "inconvenience" to you for not supporting your stupidity or laziness. Grow the hell up and accept what happens if it does.


Now if you were raped, then sure, abortions should be available. If you have health issues, or the fetus does, then again, sometimes hard choices must be made and I would support the right to an abortion in these situations. But simple stupidity or laziness , or even the failure of BC, why should people support a right for you to solve your self created issues by giving you the right to simply end another life because it is an inconvenience to you?


I don't give a damn about your body or controlling it, I just want you to act like a responsible adult when you make the choice to engage in an act that evolution designed for the purpose of impregnating you.
You want to have an honest conversation? Kids cost money, if a poor person gets pregnant, who obviously will not have the money to raise the kid, what then?
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